Perry Used Stimulus Money To Balance Budget

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  1. toddwv

    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Even while he was deriding the Stimulus Act.

    Governor Perry, who took over in Texas for President George W Bush, now wants to bring his Texas style deficits to the US? Texas is touting itself as a job-creating powerhouse even while dismissing it's $27 billion debt and the deficit spending that is creating it.

    We don't need a King George III.

    Not much different than dumping SS/Medicare funds into the general account and using it as partial coverage for military spending.


    Different dog, same tricks. The least that Texas could do is to housetrain the dog before it dumps it off on us. We're tired of getting pooped on.
     
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    RiseAgainst Banned

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    And Obama used stimulus money to double the national deficit. Perry wins.
     
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    Anikdote Well-Known Member

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    Why the false dichotomy? Can both not be wrong.

    One is a hypocrite while the other embraces keynesian economics to a fault (though the keynesian's would argue the bailout wasn't nearly big enough nor properly distributed, but that's another topic for another day)
     
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    There ius also the fact that a true stimulus can not include tax cuts, which Obama's did.
     
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    Obama used the printing press to further destroy the value of the US dollar and thus, the country as we know it. Perry, unable to control what Washington does, takes a lemon and turns it into lemonade by balancing the Texas budget. What a smart, fiscally responsible leader. Good for you Perry. If this is the best they have, consider yourself the next president of the United States of America. Hell, you earned it.
     
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    Perry was doing this way before Obama was even elected....So your statement is based on nothing but ignorance and hatred of Obama....
     
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    Anikdote Well-Known Member

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    How do you arrive at this notion? From a Keynesian stand point, we're simply trying to bolster aggregate demand, if anything it could be easily argued that reductions in the tax rate should encourage spending and thus bolster AG.

    Still a false dichotomy. Perry could have refused or returned the money, he didn't.
     
  8. toddwv

    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sorry, but that printing press started LONG before President Obama took office. Another convenient fact overlooked as part of the general "memory hole" that seems to encompass 2001-2009.

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    He was doing what? First identify what Perry has done that equals the failures of Obama doubling the national deficit from 7 trillion to a whopping 14, almost 15 trillion dollars. Then cite a source. And no, moveon.org won't cut it.
     
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    Nobody cares about "when the printing press started". As for the rest of your fear-induced post: Oh.

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    Speaking of false dichotomies, it's perfectly acceptable to think something is a bad idea, but still take advantage of it when you can't really do anything to stop it.

    The money was going to be spent whether or not Texas took it, so why not take it? Doing otherwise may have been seen to be taking the "higher road", but it would have also been kind of dumb in my opinion.
     
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    Anikdote Well-Known Member

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    Clearly you don't know what this means, but that's not relevant to my point.

    And this is a false premise on which to base your argument, he absolutely could have done something to stop that money from flowing into Texas chauffeurs. I agree it may have been foolish to do so (certainly for different reasons), but you lose the right to deride handouts when your stuffing your pockets with them.
     
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    Absolutely the truth regarding Perry. Nice way to balance the budget!!!
     
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    Should he have used Obama's strategy? Oh wait, Obama was too concerned about ramming healthcare down our throats to bother himself with a little ol' thing like balancing the national budget. :bored:

    Is it just me or does this make anyone else like Perry even more?
     
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    Why do you believe this? I think that using coal to generate power is a really bad idea when nuclear is a viable option, but that doesn't mean that I'm not going to turn my lights on ... and I still think that I have the right to complain about how the power is generated.
     
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    Not at all equitable, you obviously would face drastic lifestyle changes without electricity and you have the expectation of having it each and every day.

    Where the governor of a state has no expectation of receiving a bail out and if his economic house is in order, shouldn't need it, where as your home needs the electricity to operate normally.
     
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    Texas has no income tax - Texas raises money by its sales taxes, severance taxes, or the state borrows. Obama offered all of the states some of his federal "stash". Perry took it and instead of hiring more SEIU govt workers, paid down the debt. Seems responsible to me.
     
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    You do realize that healthcare reform cost less than the Bush Tax cuts right? They had to cut borrow money from China because Bush gave so much money to hs rich overlords that we couldn't pay for essiential programs.
     
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    It wasn't meant to be equitable. It was meant as hyperbole to illustrate my point.

    So, if I disagree with something that wouldn't cause "drastic lifestyle changes" but take advantage of it anyway because my doing so or not doing so isn't going to make any difference in the overall outcome then I have no right to disagree with it?

    You don't know that he wouldn't have managed to keep his economic house in order by other means without the bailout money if it weren't available. I believe that they had the "rainy day fund" and there are other ways of either increasing revenue or decreasing spending.
     
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    Then you're a hypocrite. That's all.
     
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    An inconvenient truth eh?
     
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    The liberal hate machine, so long focused on Sarah Palin, now needs to focus on a new target, Governor Perry.

    Maybe you need to go dig into Perry's personal life and find out if his teenage daughter ever had sex.

    Maybe you need to start filing hundreds of bogus ethics violations against Perry.

    Or maybe you should all go to hell.
     
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    You sound miffed. How, pray tell, is pointing out his pypocrisy part of the "liberal hate machine"? If anything, you should be upset he took stimulus funds.
     
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    If someone is standing on a street corner passing out $100 bills you may think its a bad idea, but it would be stupid not to take advantage of him.
     
  25. toddwv

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    Cite a source for the "15 trillion dollar" national deficit first...lol.
     

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