Pfizer had evidence their jab increased myocarditis risks

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  1. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely!
     
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    Those were the signs that clot shot was working as intended, nothing to worry about :roll: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    I'm glad I saw that event before I considered getting it.
     
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    People today are reactionary, they are easily manipulated by fear that they don't take the time to evaluate and assess the situation. And the DNC take full advantage of it :(
     
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    Here's the saddest part of all. Come September my previous landlord will have been dead for 2 years. Before we were boyfriend and girlfriend I lived in a mother-in-law's unit in the back and she was his caregiver in the front house and she only got the vaccine because he was deafly afraid of covid. He was over 70 legally blind and paralyzed from the chest down.

    And he ends up dying anyways of get this... Non-covid related pneumonia. If it wasn't for his fear mongering she never would have gotten it.
     
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    Geez, he's already got one foot in the door, being so fkd up. Why be scared of a little covid?
     
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    And it didn't do him a bit of good. But all things considered he lived a very long life for a man confined to a wheelchair.

    A bunch of bees stung him when he was 14 years old and he got some sort of infection or something or other. Someone in a wheelchair from that age making it to 50 is an accomplishment much less 70.

    And to answer your last question he was very liberal and when you're paralyzed you don't have much to do but sitting in bed and watch the news. A steady stream of left-wing propaganda had him terrified of covid
     
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    Again, I repeat. 1 in 200 chance I die from the disease vs 1 in 10000000 chance I get adverse side effects is not a tough call.
     
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    I am still unjabbed and miraculously I'm still alive
     
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    Did you just knock on wood? You should playing with fire like that.
     
  11. FatBack

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    I don't live my life in fear. Tomorrow is guaranteed to no man. If I was the sort to try minimizing all risk in my life, I would not ride a motorcycle or stand in the river hunting fossils knowing that Gators are present.

    Every man will die but not every man will live
     
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    Glad I refused it
     
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    Well no I could die tomorrow lightning can strike me you know that's life or death if you will.

    I don't need an inoculation from something that's not dangerous.
     
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    Nor do you cross a street without checking for traffic first. That's called minimizing preventable risk.
     
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    There are things that are reasonable and then there are things that are not.

    When I see people riding a bicycle down the street by their self wearing a mask.... That is someone who is succumbing to the fear mongering propaganda.

    The authorities have been caught in so many lies and misinformation that they have no one to blame for people's lackadaisical attitude but themselves.
     
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    Fair enough.
    Listening to that garbage had most of the world in his position, being freaked out that is.
     
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    My BP also went up around 30 points immediately after getting the first dose of AZ vaccine. I normally had borderline high BP . I don't know if is now permanently high as was put on BP tablets due to the high BP.

    It doesn't matter if you call the shots a vaccine or not a vaccine. It still reduced deaths as can be seen by all the stats. I got covid few weeks after getting second vaccine dose; I had no symptoms at all. It doesn't matter if the vaccine stops transmission or not; what matters is it reduces severity and death rates.
     
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    I would not call chronically high blood pressure a good trade off because that brings its own whole host of risk.

    I have moderately high blood pressure as well and I am only in my early forties so I am glad I did not take it
     
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    Smallpox was eradicated by a global Vaccination program.
    Polio almost eradicated but two small places refused the vaccine out of fear of rumors.Another global campaign would have to be made but somehow I doubt they'll try because vaccines might give you ingrown toenails in a million doses.
    Should we just give up? Let deadly diseases that might be stopped run on because a few are going on the internet? Many, many more people are going to win tens of thousands on the lottery than will be symptomatic of anything caused by the vaccines. From the Illinois lottery alone.
     
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    The vaccine has been shown not to minimize anything. It was rushed it was untested tech it was a valiant try but ultimately a failure.
     
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    That vaccine worked differently then the Pfizer vaccine. It was discovered that milkmaids milking cows with infected with cow pox developed an immunity to smallpox because they were developing antibodies. And eventually a vaccine was synthesized using a weakened version of the smallpox virus.

    That is not how the MRNA vaccine worked.
    but those are vaccines though they're not mRNA gene therapy like the Pfizer vaccine.

    We have real life data that the covid vaccine did not work.

    no I don't even think we should stop working on mRNA gene therapy. The idea behind it is quite sound to make me generic therapeutic that you can plug in chunks of whatever virus you're trying to immunize and essentially it's the universal therapeutic that might develop immunity for any viral infection. It's just not ready yet. But now we have an enormous amount of data to collect from test subjects.
    But you are talking about actual vaccines and thus really isn't one.
     
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    As with many things, we can view a vaccination in terms of the cost/benefit ratio. We should be careful to see this with clear eyes, untainted with anecdotal appeals to emotional responses. Then, we can make a decision informed by factual data.

    Regards, stay safe 'n well.
     
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    So, by "everyone", you're including Benedict Donald? Are you really blaming "Operation Warp Speed" for ALL vaccine related problems. :shock:

    Looks like President Biden was right to question it. 8)
     
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    I know, but in my book if I can't travel or work it doesn't feel like much of a choice.

    I sense a bit of a 'jab' from you. Truth is, I have turned from a believer to a slight cynic about the accuracy of the reported safety of the vaccines.

    I started a new thread - just one man's experience and conclusions I guess...

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ny-more-covid-boosters-personal-story.609154/


    I understand. It looks like a local problem.
     

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