Please cite your best evidence of "no-planes"

holston needs to understand the concept of starting a new thread.

 

[video=youtube;5XPEz0d1rWI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XPEz0d1rWI[/video]

 

Oh I'm just helping you refute the "no planes" theory

 

someone already posted the evidence which wound up shooting themselves in the foot with it, so if you want to see it go back about 100 posts and read them more carefully this time

 

No they didn't -Stop making things up. Now please present evidence the controllers could not see the impact at the WTC or admit you lied

 

I already did, however for your argument, they never said they saw the "impact"! Stop making things up

 

Yes they did along with passengers on one of the aircraft waiting to take off. You claim it was impossible for a flight controller to see the impact. Put up or shut up

 

they have to take off first LOL










see you guys just keep jumping to all these conclusions and dry lab your brains to fit the scenario you want to believe

 

it would also explain why all the plane videos had to be faked.

the problem with witnesses however is that it was a:
big plane
small plane
767
757
737
black plane
gray plane
military plane
american airlines plane
plane with a pod

and many reporters and witnesses said NO PLANE

witnesses therefore do little to solve this mystery, so turning to the forensic evidence we find they dumped off the wrong engine, an engine never used by boeing. OOOPSIE!

Now we have a real problem. It leaves few other avenues to turn to and it aint cave men.

 

Of course you have to completely ignore the radio traffic of nearby aircraft asked to see if the could spot the plane. Oddly most of them correctly identified the type of plane and its altitude. But thats the truther way. Ignore the expert witnesses that destroy your innuendos

 

but the planes have to be in the air before they can fly. I posted the schedule above.

what you are saying is the same as a 100 people watching you point a gun at someone they fall and are pronounced dead therefore you are the murderer. Only problem is that jojo points out that your gun had no firing pin. OOOPSIE! How do you proceed? Let you hang for murder anyway? we got planes that never took off.

 

Much more effectively than has the Nazi effort to convince us that twofers are rational.

 

Of course it is. He just posted a good copy of the original.

 

so lets look at what you are trying to pull here.

you want people to believe that the version aired by cnn and copied in sept 2001 is not the original and the one he downloaded in 2013 that is modified is the original.

yeh makes perfect sense

 

OMG the Hitler Nazi card????

Everyone knows that card is only played when ya have no valid argument, the expert card failed the drama card failed, and the pity card failed!

Time to send in a NOOB!

How did they sneak all those explosives past the workers!

No one can keep a secret someone would have talk!

LOL go go go!

 

You do realise you're not linking any kind of flight data record, right? You're linking when the registrations were cancelled out of the FAA system. Here is flight data;

AAL11 Flight Plan:



AAL11A: (put into system after hijacking was confirmed).



UAL175 Flight Strip:



AAL77 Flight Plan:



UAL93 Flight Plan:



These flights existed. Real people boarding those planes, and died on those planes. Real air traffic controllers coordinated these planes. Real pilots spotted these planes. Real witnesses saw these planes crash. Time to stop apologizing for the terrorists.

 

No you have not the - first documents above are clearly not any sort of official documents. They have been printed off a website. The last document is too small to read so we have no idea what it is, what it says or where it comes from. Please link us to an original (readable document) document[/QUOTE]

 

my eyes roll when i even see conspiracy theorists argue this. I chime in cause i find it interesting to argue against people that IMO live in a fantasy world. I'm curious to learn more about what goes on in these people's minds...

dozens of eye witnesses saw the damn planes, videos show them hitting buildings, hundreds of passengers died, 64 cell calls made..

So the video footage was CGI, carefully put together weeks and months before the attacks and given to reputable media channels to show right after the attacks? Not only is this fantastic, no-one spoke? everyone kept their mouths shut? and no-one has been able to prove the footage was fake other than amateur conspiracy theorists?

Then 4 planes and hundreds of passengers dissappeared. Planes were shot down? re-routed somewhere and passengers executed? shot down? If they were re-directed, how come no air traffic controller, airport ever notcied it? If they were shot down elsewhere, where's the wrekage?

64 cell calls. All faked using voice morph technology or FBI lied about them. Well, the latter can't be true unless FBI forced family members to lie about the calls. The former is also odd as it would mean family members couldn't tell the difference between a machine or the voice of their loved ones? This voice morph technology not only mimicked their voices, it also mimicked emotions, dug out memories of the people to a point where family members didn't even notice

All the wreckage or plane parts were planted at the pentagon or WTC without cameras showing it or people noticing.. and from where did the parts come from?

Air traffic controller voice recordings of the terrorists and pilots, fabricated

videos of terrorists at airports, whole story not told

records of terrorists training as pilots for months leading up to 09/11, false and people at the training facilities in the conspiracy

CIA, FBI, NSA all HAD to have colluded because neither could've pulled this off whilst fooling the other, impossible. Plus, Bush adminstration must have been in it and military as-well. There's just absolutely no way that just one of these agencies could've pulled this off whilst the others wouldn't have uncovered it.


I mean, just one of these claims is fanastic enough but all of it together, is as crazy as me creating a conspiracy theory about Obama not being from this planet, him being an alien intelligence.

 

as you can see what you posted proves nothing what so ever










great for parlor talk over tea though.

 

yeh well I fart a lot every time I see OSHuggers ignore all the fraud and fakery.

How do you know what is real? OSHuggers failed to prove it.

Gotta get past the fake planes first.



I dont care if there were planes or not, I want proof there were planes and the garbage the OSH's post have no value to achieve that end.



No in fact it takes 10 minutes to do the (*)(*)(*)(*)ty cgi work done on the 911 plane clips. LOL You are obviously making statements about things you know nothing about.



even less for fox they were really lazy!


look how easy it is




any wonder it looks so fake with disappearing wings

 

Just because something can be done, does not mean it was done. It is up to you to provide something more than puerile gifs as evidence. You call for written police reports from every witness, yet do not produce anyone who is prepared to say "Yep I did that on xxx computer using xxx software

 

it also means that it must be probated.

unless everything is done according to hoyle you have nothing and nothing in the 911 investigation was done according to hoyle

its just as easy to produce radar tracking, voice overs, black box data, passenger lists, obamas BC you name it, anything today can be faked and you people condemn me because I want proof?

The question is what do you want?

 

Because whenever you are shown proof you claim it is not good enough, but you present no evidence as to why that evidence is defective, you actually go out of your way to back anything up that you claim. You reject the witnesses from the flight tower and at least one plane load of passengers. No reason....you just do.

And why is your truth correct, but Judy Woods not. Why is the evidence from loose change defective but your version of the truth is correct?

 

You link garbage which only goes as far to show that the aircraft involve were deregistered in 2002 & 2005. From this you somehow claim they never flew on 9/11, even though your own images don't show anything of the such. I link air traffic control recordings, radar, images, witnesses, flight strips, flight plans, and more, but apparently that proves "nothing what so ever".

LOL you are the worst lawyer in existence.

The argument is over. I have proven to you that the aircraft were in the system and departed that day. You are debunked.

 

It's pretty sad this thread has made it to ten pages.