Please explain how you can vote for Trump. Can you admit the real reason?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Patricio Da Silva, Feb 19, 2024.

  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's the cognitive equivalent of looking at this picture and thinking they are really twins.

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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Patricio Da Silva, I will commend you for what you have down, I don't know if you've done all the work yourself or copied it. But it does take in a lot. I know much of it I have heard before except the niece. I know a lot of it's true, but there is more to some of it that is told in just the headlines. Some doesn't upset me at all. They make a big deal out of him going to a prostitute several times. If I remember right it was when his wife was pregnant. That could be because she cut him off, afraid it might hurt the baby. But they were prostitutes, not long or even short term affairs as with Roosevelt, Ike, Kennedy, Johnson and Clinton had. All those were much worse. Wanting to cover it up would be normal for any man. His filing bankruptcy doesn't bother me. The say a millionaire normally files bankruptcy 3 1/2 times. He is/was much more than a normal millionaire and the casino have been going through some real tough times, not only in Atlantic City, but in Vegas too, many have filed bankruptcy . The fact of many of his lawyers being charged with a crime doesn't surprise me at all. I believe many are dishonest. Trump University bothers me some. The students got the education they wanted, but it was supposed to be taught by Trump and he never taught one class. I don't know how much truth there is in him cheating his Brother's estate. I don't know if it's ever been proven and he had to make it right. I know Mary Trump believes so. I have heard different stories of why some contractors haven't been paid. As for the Saudi arms deal, if you look it up, before Trump, Obama had the biggest arms deal ever with Saudi Arabia. As for the racial remark and rental property. I read his Father gave him the money to help buy it and told him not to rent to Blacks, as it would hurt the business renting the apartments out. Trump has never been known to be racist ever before or after. He even had a Black girlfriend for quite a few months and she said she never heard and racist remarks from him and didn't believe him to be racist. Sure not going to try and make Trump look innocent of everything, I sure know he's not. But they maybe more to some of the stories than we know.
     
  3. Joe knows

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    Not even close. Biden’s border policy alone is hurting more people than Trump ever did
     
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  4. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The information age has simultaneously made that outlandish belief possible and provided the means to show it is horseshyte.
     
  5. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here's a few more reasons to vote TRUMP
    Even cops aren't safe! There was just another incident of ILLEGALS attacking cops in NYC. THANKS BIDEN!
     
  6. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Does it bother you that information is so easily available this day and age? It does make controlling people and marxism a bit harder to pull off. don't like it?
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    it's the Trump policy now, Trump shot down the Bipartisan policy to address this, Trump owns the immigration mess
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    wow, a rare bit of honesty from the Trump defenders?

    what is it, our belief in equal rights, religious freedom, diversity, freedom to choose for ourselves?
     
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  9. Joe knows

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    No. It’s not. He could have allowed title 42 to stay. He could make it harder for them to live comfortably like no work permits. He could have kept building the wall. He could have allowed Texas to keep their razor wire.

    The policy the house shot down would have still allowed for 5k crossings a day. How is that effective?
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Biden owns it. Here's some math for you, under which administration did more illegals come in? math does not lie!
     
  11. Darthcervantes

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    Don't take the bait! They want their illegal voters and want to blame the right for it. I think its a genius strategy. (dirty, low morals and DISGUSTING but pure GENIUS nonetheless)
     
  12. FreshAir

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    that was only valid while the Covid national emergency was in place

    the republican majority supreme court shot that down
     
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  13. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If a medical condition prevented you from having sex with your wife for a period of time it sounds like it would be okay with you if she had an adulterous, sexual affair without your knowledge. So I'm assuming you also think paying to keep the Stormy Daniels affair from the public right before the election is fine with you too. How very forgiving you are.
    But can you see how it might bother some people? That is, having someone so clearly amoral being the prez.
     
  14. Arkanis

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    I'm interested in the facts.

    COVID mortality ratio per million inhabitants:

    Canada: 1.5
    Spain: 2.6
    UK: 3.3
    France: 2.5
    Germany: 2.1
    Sweden: 2.6
    Norway: 1.2
    Japan: 0.5
    South Korea: 0.7
    Australia: 0.9
    Austria: 2.4
    Italy: 3.2

    Average: 1.9

    USA: 3.5..... +84%.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

    Hundreds of thousands of deaths for nothing, thanks to the biggest idiot ever to be POTUS.
     
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  15. Joe knows

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    No. Biden ended it.
     
  16. FreshAir

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    his black girlfriend
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  17. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really?

    President Trump Reduced Legal Immigration. He Did Not Reduce Illegal Immigration
    https://www.cato.org/blog/president...gration-he-did-not-reduce-illegal-immigration

    Close to 1,000 migrant children separated by Trump yet to be reunited with parents

    WASHINGTON, Feb 2 (Reuters) - Nearly 1,000 migrant children separated at the U.S.-Mexico border by the administration of former President Donald Trump have yet to be reunited with their parents despite a two-year effort by President Joe Biden.
    The U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) said on Thursday of the 998 children still separated, 148 were in the process of reunification.
    Biden, a Democrat, issued an executive order shortly after taking office in January 2021 that established a task force to reunite children separated from their families under Trump, a Republican and immigration hardliner, calling such separations a "human tragedy."

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/cl...rump-yet-be-reunited-with-parents-2023-02-02/

    I would like for you to consider the psychological/emotional anguish experienced by the thousands of migrant families who were separated by Trump's policy. If you are a parent, try to imagine the horror of never seeing your child again. Imagine being taken from your parents as a 6 year old, never to see them again. Then ask yourself if you should reconsider your position.
     
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    it was only temporary, due to the Covid national emergency... otherwise not constitutional
     
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    I stand corrected. It did end after the COVID emergency was lifted. However, The Biden administration tried to lift Title 42 in spring 2022, arguing that it was no longer needed as a public health measure and that it had become ineffective as a deterrence tool and violated the right to apply for asylum. A court stayed the administration’s decision, based on a lawsuit filed by several Republican attorneys general, and Title 42 remained in effect for an additional year.


    I couldn’t find any more court rulings like you had mentioned. The Biden administration has made it easier for asylum seekers and has given special access to people from certain countries. including employment-based visas for Central Americans, and a large sponsorship program for Cubans, Haitians, Nicaraguans, and Venezuelans (as well as Ukrainians).

    They have also committed to opening regional processing centers in Latin America to provide humanitarian protection as well as information on legal pathways, although this seems to be a longer-term effort.

    Let me repeat that… Opening regional processing centers in Latin America….


    Who was it that Biden put over the border again?
     
  20. Lee Atwater

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    Does Biden get any credit for realizing a border policy change is called for, and then agreeing to a number of Repub demands, producing what Sen. Lankford.......one of the Repub negotiators......said was the most conservative immigration legislation in 40 years?

    Border Patrol union backs Senate immigration bill despite House GOP opposition
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bor...e-immigration-bill-despite/story?id=106969976

    U.S. Chamber of Commerce Applauds U.S. Senate’s Bipartisan Border Security Bill
    https://www.uschamber.com/immigrati...-border-security-bill-calls-for-swift-passage
     
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    this was the closet to a bipartisan deal we had got in years, now thanks to Trump, we get nothing, Trump says keep those doors open
     
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    And the largest comorbidity to dying from Covid was obesity and age. What pray tell is a major issue with the US compared to other countries? OH, obesity? And looking the vast majority that actually died FROM Covid? Fat or old.

    Don’t you DARE try to blame a person as if Trumps policy actually killed people. It was the doctors FAUCI, pushing the policy Trump was forced to support. Trump was called racist for simply wanting to shut down travel, so go push your fake news elsewhere. More people died AFTER we actually knew the truth in 21 and Biden continued to push the same ignorant policy that destroyed businesses and our economy. HE had NO EXCUSES. Trump just had to react out of ignorance because few knew and those that did were being silenced. He hd to trust the agencies in charge. Biden acted out of STUPIDITY and evil after we knew it was all BS.

    Nice stupid chart you got there though:)
     
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    You mocked the scientists who predicted hundreds of thousands of deaths at the start of the pandemic.

    When the deaths piled up, you doubted the official figures.

    Today, you praise Trump's performance.

    In short, where's your credibility?

    There have been millions of people like you in this country.

    They believed Trump when he told them the pandemic would go away on its own and even refused to get vaccinated.

    Results: red counties had a mortality rate of +17% compared to blue counties.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/...eath-rates-than-those-in-democratic-counties/
     
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    He seated 3 Supreme Court justices that are gunning to destroy climate change fascism.

    He's way better than anything Australia has to offer.
     
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    NONE of it shouid have been **** down and it wasn’t TRUMP telling anyone anything. It was Faucis policy.

    This isn’t a left right thing. It’s the death of our economy thing.

    Don’t you know NOW, vaccinations didn’t mean **** compared to the comorbiidities? Healthy young people didn’t die more or less no matter if they were vaccinated or not. Also the death statistics are all tainted with dying from Covid compared to dying with Covid. Well documented but BURIED in the MSM which is where you obviously got your info from.

    Countries with low vaccination rates AND less obesity did just fine. Your ignorance and dishonesty is incredible.
     

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