Police Break Up Apparent Antifa Plot To Light Kenosha On Fire

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  1. Rush_is_Right

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    Do you doubt me? Lonestargal posted the same as what I saw.
     
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    That theory is just a little desperate. Reality is that Antifa is left leaning. That is why they are in so thick with BLM. To try to say that they are hired by some right wing boogie man is just desperate reaching for a way to deny reality.
     
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    I just did it and it went to Biden.com
     
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    I posted the actual screen shot on my computer.

    I don't think antifa.com is an actual website. Google finds nothing with that address.
     
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    I did it and it went to a Biden site.
     
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    And for good reason...
     
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    I'll be sure to be skeptical of your then.
     
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    I think you already are and always will be very skeptical of me and anything I say or especially indicate a strong approval of.

    Which fact I find most satisfying
     
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    And you know that Antifa is in "thick" with BLM because you saw them yourself at the last BLM meeting?

    Antifa is a fight club chimera, one of the most secretive and unknown organizations to come out of the last 5 years. You have no better info on what Antifa is and who finances them than I or anyone else does.

    My theory at least has actual known-to-exist people behind it and makes a sort of backwards sense. Who do you think runs and finances them, the Illuminati, the Lizard Men?
     
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    Like who?
     
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    The issue is a misdemeanor if it amounts to anything. It is reasonably arguable that people flee Kenosh cops because they harbor murderous police officers.

    My belief is that there was no "tip" bu a concerned citizen and the vehicles were stopped without probable cause by bigoted, racist cops.
     
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    Dude, quit being obtuse. It's common knowledge that Antifa and BLM are tied at the hip. Where you see one you see the other. They use the same support structures. CHAZ was both Antifa and BLM. BLM and Antifa are both at every protest and riot in the country. BLM and Antifa aren't conservative groups and all that garbage that you espouse about some fictitious billionaire boogieman that controls two large liberal radical leftist movements is just over the top conspiracy theory designed to divert the attention from the obvious. BLM is racist and Antifa are actually left wing fascists. Get real. You are shooting any authenticity that you have in the ass by denying that Antifa is a right wing controlled group. The only reason the left is starting to distance themselves form Antifa now is because the riots are working in Trump's favor. Just a couple of weeks ago they were justifying their actions. Then they tried to ignore their existence. That isn't working because it's starting to show up in the polls so now they are trying to blame the right for their bastard child that spews hate and destruction. No matter how hard the left tries they own that fascist group, Antifa. What is fun to watch is that the is slowly coming to realize that they have to denounce Antifa but they can't denounce BLM. BLM and Antifa do the same thing at the same time. If there is a BLM protest Antifa is going to be there and BLM will never denounce Antifa. So the left has to figure out how to denounce Antifa and BLM but they can't denounce BLM because so much of their base is BLM. They screwed themselves. It's pretty fun to watch. Here is an article form the radical left site Vice that shows how the two work together. No, Vice isn't a leftist sight funded by right wingers to make leftists look bad.The article is has an idiotic premise but here it is.

    Neo-Nazis are giving Black Lives Matter and antifa a reason to work together
    Many Black Lives Matter members have long viewed antifa — overwhelmingly white, and masked when they rally — with some suspicion. While the two groups generally take the same side when white nationalists come to town, conflicts have arisen over tactics and strategies.

    But in the past year Black Lives Matter and antifa have started coordinating, and there are signs that they’re increasingly finding ways to work together. Green knew, for example, that antifa would be there because she’d discussed plans for the counterprotest ahead of time with other Black Lives Matter members with organizers from anti-fascist groups.

    Black Lives Matter D.C. and Black Lives Matter Charlottesville co-signed a letter with antifa under the banner of “Shut It Down D.C,” which called on “anti-fascists and people of good conscience” to mobilize in Washington. There was also a “steering committee” made up of locals, who set the ground rules for the main counter-rally.
    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...s-matter-and-antifa-a-reason-to-work-together
     
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    Why don't you just cease all the fact-free rhetoric and answer me the one question I asked

    Who do you think is controlling Antifa? and more importantly why? Who has anything to gain by starting riots?
     
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    Why don't you just cease all the fact-free rhetoric and answer me the one question I asked
    Who do you think is controlling Antifa? and more importantly why? Who has anything to gain by starting riots?
     
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    The fact that ANTIFA is not run or managed by any actual organized central agency and has neither an official membership roster or an address to send dues and contributions to, does nothing to deter the ones who worship at the clay feet of a repulsive orange demagogue from swallowing the swill.

    Trump and his crime family meet ALL the criteria for the perpetrators of Fascism and we are seeing it unfolding in real time. Anti-fascist supporters, which should be every American, represent dissent which a Fascist naturally cannot tolerate so they demonize the dissenters.
    And btw...I am ANTIFA
     
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    Just remember all happening under fat orange urinated turds watch. Trump is at fault for not trying to bring unity like previous presidents but instead fans the flames making it worse.
     
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    My post wasn't rhetorical. It was filled chock full of fact. You don ask a good and valid question however. I don't think any one person controls Antifa. I think there are groups that are loosely organized from within. I do know that they do get financial support from an organization that bails rioters and worse out of jail. I don know that people from Biden's campaign staff donate money to this same organization. It will be hard for Biden's campaign to back away from that. They really do own it. They can be painted as "pro riot" and they only have themselves to blame. Biden would have to fire all of those staffers and denounce the organization to get out form under this and that isn't going to happen. Biden even has a page on his site that denounces the bail system.


    Biden staff donate to group that pays bail in riot-torn Minneapolis
    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Campaign staff for Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden are advertising their donations to a group that pays bail fees in Minneapolis after the city’s police jailed people protesting the killing of a black man by a white police officer.

    At least 13 Biden campaign staff members posted on Twitter on Friday and Saturday that they made donations to the Minnesota Freedom Fund, which opposes the practice of cash bail, or making people pay to avoid pre-trial imprisonment. The group uses donations to pay bail fees in Minneapolis.

    Biden campaign spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement to Reuters that the former vice president opposes the institution of cash bail as a “modern day debtors prison.”

    But the campaign declined to answer questions on whether the donations were coordinated within the campaign, underscoring the politically thorny nature of the sometimes violent protests.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...s-bail-in-riot-torn-minneapolis-idUSKBN2360SZ


    Minnesota nonprofit with $35M bails out those accused of violent crimes
    "A Minnesota nonprofit has bailed out defendants from Twin Cities jails charged with murder, violent felonies, and sex crimes, as it seeks to address a system that disproportionately incarcerates Black people and people of color.

    And it has plenty of money to do it.

    The Minnesota Freedom Fund (MFF) received $35 million in donations in the wake of the police killing of George Floyd, with many of those donations intended to help protesters who were jailed during the demonstrations and riots in May."



    Who’s getting out?

    Among those bailed out by the Minnesota Freedom Fund (MFF) is a suspect who shot at police, a woman accused of killing a friend, and a twice convicted sex offender, according to court records reviewed by the FOX 9 Investigators.

    According to attempted murder charges, Jaleel Stallings shot at members of a SWAT Team during the riots in May. Police recovered a modified pistol that looks like an AK-47. MFF paid $75,000 in cash to get Stallings out of jail.

    Darnika Floyd is charged with second degree murder, for stabbing a friend to death. MFF paid $100,000 cash for her release.

    Christopher Boswell, a twice convicted rapist, is currently charged with kidnapping, assault, and sexual assault in two separate cases. MFF paid $350,00 in cash for his release.

    “The last time we were down there, the clerk said, ‘we hate it when you bail out these sex offenders, that is what they said',” Lewin said.

    Lewin said for MFF it is not about the crime, it’s about the system.

    In Minnesota, 60 percent of the jail population is waiting for trial, according to an analysis by the Vera Institute of Justice, based on data from 2015.

    That analysis found Black people are incarcerated in Minnesota jails at 4.7 times the rate of Whites; and, for Native Americans the rate is 11 times the rate for whites. It is considered one of the largest racial disparities in the U.S
    https://www.fox9.com/news/minnesota-nonprofit-with-35m-bails-out-those-accused-of-violent-crimes
     
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    No his words will. Praising the terrorist kid because he is a supporter. Or telling the police to be rough while arresting all. Calling all the protesters whether they were peaceful or not thugs and terrorists.

    Are they wrong for looting and destroying buildings yes. I personally donr understand why they take it out on their own communities but I do believe a lot of them are more opportunist looking to get free stuff and dont necessarily care about the cause. Of course there are sone outside influence also from what intelligence reports claim trying to spark more division.
    I understand ppl being upset they do have a point but just expressing their anger in the wrong way. Of course it doesbt help when we have a president who could care less about the cause....
     
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    So you don't believe in bail for poor people?
     
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    That isn't the point. Nice diversion however. (not really. It's pretty lame.)
     
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    It's literally every BLM rally in Louisville.

    Every other week there's a new group from Atlanta or St Louis or Memphis.

    Maybe the city wouldn't be shuttered and people would stop killing each other if we stopped allowing this to happen?
     
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    They spread the virus. And likely, not just anarchy.....
     
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