Police shoot drug dealer dead through his car windscreen.

Living in a free society in which we are given many choices is problematic to be sure. However the alternative is far worse. In my opinion, abuse of alcohol and drugs should be decriminalized and treated as a public health issue. This would eliminate most of the problems and costs associated with these issues. Do you have any idea how much money and resources are wasted on enforcement, prosecution and imprisonment on illegal drugs? When you figure the man hours of policemen, prosecutors, judges and prison guards and administrators it is staggering. These resources could be better used to educate the public and to help abusers of drugs and alcohol get help to overcome their afflictions. Also, users and sellers of recreational products would be left alone in their quest for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness without having their door kicked in by a paramilitary group of policemen for possession with intent.

 

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You're right there - he has 'previous' . . .

"In 2010, Mr Yaqub was cleared of attempted murder and a firearms offence after it was alleged that he opened fire on a car in Birkby Hall Road, Huddersfield."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-38509806

Looks like the BBC has dropped the 'Mr' and started referring to him by his given name now - Yasser - like he some kind of 'loveable boy next door'!
Oh and a 'pond' is an enclosed body of water??

 

Trouble is that the criminal classes exploit it for all they're worth. I'm afraid the pendulum has swung too far the other way and the responsible members of society are forever on the defensive against the irresponsible.

 

So the one justifies the other in your book then, does it? I'll have to think about that, and why you seem to be an apologist for drugs dealers.

 

Cops do it for a living.

 

Criminals vote? Really?

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It turned out a damn sight better than the murderous apartheid regimes which preceded Mandela's presidency. Sharpeville? Of course you haven't heard of it.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=s...=czduWNq4OeOTgAbHlI2YCQ#imgrc=SfeK-T35fp-BaM:
http://overcomingapartheid.msu.edu/multimedia.php?id=65-259-E

 

Are you a Cop?

 

Yes.

Democrats in many states work hard to make sure criminals are able to vote.

 

I am an advocate of fair play and freedom for all. Many products are harmful if abused. Some cause death and destruction such as cigarettes, alcohol, pharmaceutical and illegal drugs. I find it quite hypocritical and unfair to lock up or kill some purveyors of these harmful products and let the others freely market them for profit. Think about that.

 

Maturity is also about finally reaching a state of self-education where you know the difference between "due" and "do"...

Still, your first sentence was spot on.

 

I went back and forth on it before posting, and didn't want to research the phrase, so I went with, "you're making what's due to the bill collectors" as where it may have stemmed from. So sue me.

(wanted to say, "so so me", just to be funny, but then realized you might think I'm even more dumb.)

 

"Wreak:" Cause damage or harm. Inflict, create, cause, result in, effect, engender, bring about, perpetrate, unleash, vent, bestow, deal out, mete out, serve out, administer, carry out, deliver, apply, lay on, impose...

The word you needed was "reeks".

"Reeks": Be suggestive of something unpleasant or undesirable.
eg, "the speeches reeked of anti-Semitism"

Smells strongly and unpleasantly; stinks, smells, smells bad/disgusting, gives off a bad smell, stink/smell to high heaven
"the whole place reeked of cheap perfume"

Just thought you'd want your post to be clearly understood.

 

Thank you! You're handy. You need a job? I know college types are struggling these days.

 

That should be, "So soo me".

I don't think you're dumb. Just failed by a lazy school system, probably. That's a big club!

Cheers.

 

Me? A "college type"?! Nicest compliment I've had for a long time.

And I mean a "long time"!

Just seems there are so many self-styled "experts" at these forums, one more couldn't hurt.

 

Right. Though, I haven't met many claiming to be English experts. But I'm sure you've caught onto that quickly.

I'll make sure to stay off of "proper English" threads, as not to offend. You might want to stick to them.

 

And many of them who think in this manner love their drug, alcohol. Yes, they are exponentially more dangerous than anyone who sells drugs to people who own their own bodies, and should be free to ingest whatever they want. Some people think they should own your body, for they somehow are entitled to own it, very much as they would be slave owners a couple hundred years ago. Personal sovereignty? Forget about it. One day we will see these entitled for what they in reality are. Lower than any drug dealer that ever lived. A true scourge and pox on humanity. Human beings have used drugs since we dropped down from the trees and will continue to use them until our species is extinct. But we will eventually get rid of those who demand to own the body and minds of others. And who will punish them, or even kill them.

In Colorado the biggest funder of the attempt to keep pot illegal was the drug company who makes those narcotic patches that so many OD on. Did not want the competition.

 

'freedom' only works when it is practiced with a sense of responsibility, in this case social responsibility. Taking your exemplars: tobacco doesn't bend minds; alcohol does bend minds but it's freely available and a fact of life so we have no option than to live with it, irrespective of the misery and chaos it causes; pharmaceutical drugs are almost exclusively needed to bestow upon users a reasonable quality of life, and often its prolongation; illegal drugs neatly brings us back to what to do with the dealers of death and misery. My solution would stop them in their tracks - yours would allow them to carry on as they are??

I don't need to be told to 'think' because I do it all the time.

 

The problem with your position is that all illegal drugs do not produce death and misery anymore than do alcohol, tobacco or pharmaceutical drugs if used in a responsible manner. In fact many illegal drugs are far less harmful than the above mentioned products. I would cite marijuana, psylocybin, mescaline, LSD and other psychoactive drugs that are now illegal as prime examples of this. Harder drugs such as cocaine, heroin and other opiates can also be used in moderation by those who do not have addictive personalities. The bottom line is that there are far more deaths and health problems caused by the legal substances aforementioned than any and all so called illegal drugs. Since you are a thinking man, try to access the statistics regarding the number of deaths caused by tobacco, alcohol and pharmaceutical drugs and compare them with the number of deaths caused by marijuana, psilocybin, (magic mushrooms), mescaline, (peyote) and LSD. Then access the stats regarding deaths directly related to alcohol, tobacco and pharmaceutical drugs to the deaths related to heroin or cocaine. The numbers do not lie. Cheers

 

same as here, if you carry a gun and are shot by police, people assume you deserved it

 

Not any longer - retired.

 

That is so recondite I don't have the patience nor inclination to address all points: suffice to say that if we have one evil (alcohol) what sense can it possibly make to add another one (narcotics)?

 

Well that undoubtedly is a possibility? I'd even argue a probability, because nobody would carry a firearm unless they intend to use it?

 

one of the reasons I do not carry a gun....