For all those who think passing a law will end abortions....here's another choice for pregnant women. http://www.womenonwaves.org/en/page/5636/abortion-drone--first-flight-to-poland On Saturday June 27 th the Abortion drone will fly for the first time packages of abortion pills from Frankfurt an der Oder in Germany to Słubice in Poland. The campaign is a collaboration between Women on Waves; Cocia Basia, a Berlin based abortion support group for Polish women; Feminteka Foundation from Warsaw and the 8 th of March womens rights informal collective Porozumienie kobiet 8 marca. The Abortion drone will mark the different reality for Polish women to access to safe abortion services compared to other women in Europe. In almost all European countries abortion is legal, only in Poland, Ireland and Malta abortion is illegal and womens rights are still violated.
Part of the reason the Polish government likely put so many restrictions on abortion is to try to make up for the population they lost during the nazi occupation, from 1939-1945. In 2007, the Prime Minister of Poland Jaroslaw Kaczynski made the following comments when arguing that his country should have more voting influence in an EU treaty than his country's population numbers justified: "We're only demanding that which was taken from us. If Poland had not experienced the years between 1939 and 1945, it would today be a country of 66 million if you look at the demographic data." http://www.dw.com/en/polish-prime-minister-brings-world-war-two-into-eu-vote-debate/a-2618555 Not to change the topic, but this proves that the Polish government is still very mindful about the population numbers they lost over 50 years ago. Oh, by the way, the nazis gave Polish women all the abortions they wanted.
This is really sad. Women put themselves at risk if they take that drug at the wrong time. The polish government should be looking at why these women would risk their lives and health in order to end their pregnancy. And also at better ways to prevent unwanted pregnancy in the first place.
Women are not cattle to be used as breeders to increase population. If additional population were needed to benefit Polish society, government should try incentive programs giving women who want to have children but cannot afford them the opportunity to have them. IAC, attempts to force women to bear children will be unsuccessful. If you really want to understand some the reasons for Polish anti-abortion policy, read here: http://www.sxpolitics.org/frontlines/book/pdf/capitulo5_poland.pdf
The Russian population tends to be rather conservative also, much more so than Western Europe, and yet abortion is very widespread and prevalent in Russia. In fact, the abortion rate in Russia surpasses all the rest of Europe by a substantial margin. I suppose the real question is why the Soviets were less successful at stamping out religion in Poland than they were in their home nation. One reason may be that the Poles viewed Catholicism as a part of their national identity, and were reluctant to give it up. However, the Czech Republic was another Catholic country bordering Poland and is now the most atheistic country in Europe. In other words, Poland and the Czech Republic were in very similar situations and yet they went in completely opposite directions. Actually the reasons are fairly complicated and a discussion can be found here, for anyone who is really that curious: http://www.quora.com/Why-is-atheism-so-prevalent-in-the-Czech-Republic The communist government in Poland was apparently more reluctant to impose brutal measures than in other countries, perhaps partly out of sympathy since the Poles had lost so many people, just as the Russians had lost so many people to the Germans in the war. Then the election of Pope John Paul II in 1978 no doubt had an effect, because many Poles took pride that he was the first polish pope.
So women wanted abortions because they wanted to be like men; wombless? It would make more sense to fight for contraception and sterilization rights over abortion.
Women want abortions because they want to control their own bodies, and that includes reproduction. They want to control their reproduction, not end it. Most people assume we all already have contraception and sterilization rights, and while we do have abortions rights, there is a noisy crowd attempting to end those rights. People aren't going to fight for rights they believe we already have.
That is due to the lack of sex education and contraception in Russia - According to a joint study carried out by the Lomonosov Moscow State University Faculty of Economics and the Institute of Demography, roughly 10 percent of couples do not use any methods of contraception at all. To compare, that figure is four percent for Hungary, three percent for France and two percent for Belgium. Meanwhile, almost 80 percent of women said they were taking precautions against unintended pregnancies. When asked for details, the poll revealed that only 20 percent of women were using intrauterine devices, and 14 percent were taking birth control pills both reliable methods of contraception while the rest opted for such outdated approaches as the calendar-based method and withdrawal.
This BIZARRE claim is refuted by the fact that many women who have abortions have already had children or have children later in life after having an abortion. You seem to believe that every woman who has an abortion is some "slut" who sleeps around, if she gets pregnant, has an abortion, and the next night is back in the clubs wanting "worry-free sex like men do." It is both misogynistic and misandronist given you seem to have a low opinion of BOTH genders.
But Grannie, dridder and the "pro-lifers" want to "free women"..... by not allowing them to control their own bodies. So they'll do what "women are intended for"....getting married, having children, and obeying their husbands on the "important stuff." Otherwise they are "victims of the patriarchy"........right? Also up is down, black is white, and Rush Limbaugh is a shining example of the triumph of traditional marriage.
You either want to embrace femininity and what makes you uniquely female (carrying, birthing and feeding a child from your body) or you want to reject your feminity and be the same as men, which means removing your uniquely feminine ability.
There are choices on how you embrace femininity. These days women don't have to bear and care for a child in order to know they are female or to feel feminine or to be recognized as feminine by the rest of the world. That is the patriarchal view, that is that women do one thing and men do another and woe to the person who intrudes on the other sex's territory.
Ok then what can women do that men cant other than carry, birth and feed a child from their body? I cant think of one single thing. Grow their hair long? Nope men can do that. Wear a dress? Nope men can do that too. Sing in soprano? Yep men can do that too. Not have to shave? I know quite a few women who would disagree. Denying your womb is denying being a wo(mb)man. Making it difficult to be a woman is a result of patriarchy, not the act of being a woman. Elective abortion is the cure to the "disease" that is womanhood. True feminists fight for their right to be a woman AND keep their lifestyle.
The real issue with the feminist movement is that they wanted to have both, they wanted to be "equal" to men in every way but still keep their femininity and ability to have motherhood. Many feminists seriously believe that women should be able to sleep around "just like men" and not have to worry about a pregnancy.
I think women should be able to sleep around too, but they need to understand, just as the men do, that no matter how careful they are there is always that tiny chance they could get pregnant. If they can accept that risk and all that comes with it (including birth) then they can sleep around til their hearts content. If not, vibrators are fun.
I thought it was 'shrooms..... I have never seen a more off the wall basket case......but it does derail every thread quite well......
So basically, in your view, the only "real role" for a woman...is having children. A woman isn't "feminine"...unless she's given birth?
It's sad that you feel women have to bear and care for children to PROVE femininity. What does it matter anyway, so long as I (and other women) are comfortable in our own skins? Patriarchy draws rigid lines for the behavior and actions of women, and men too, just as you are attempting to do. True feminists embrace a woman's choice whether to conform to a traditional view of women's roles or whether to explore new boundaries. Not every person fits into the neat little box you portray, so not every woman wants to embrace motherhood, and that does not lessen her femininity.
I'm curious what she thinks of a conservative woman like Ann Coulter...who has never married, never had children? Is Ann "feminine" to her?
Poster obviously sees women as nothing but breeding cattle......rather a hard hearted , ignorant, misogynistic view.....
