Political Perspetive on Black Voting.

Interesting perspective ... from a different point of view.

 

The way the author of this article phrases the conservative positions here perfectly illustrates exactly why he/she/it cannot see the forest for the trees. The part in bold is not how conservatives see those issues. It is how liberals interpret the conservative position on those issues.

In other words, this article is not only wrong, but if you pay attention to the wording, the author even tells you why it's wrong. Because it lacks objectivity.

 

How would you describe the conservative position on those issues?

You're objectively certain of this?

 

You know what's Funny; I'm watching the News Reporters ask Today's Primary Voters why they are choosing their particular candidate ... and people are making issue with this Thread ... talk about Hilarious.

I'm sure the BO Campaign Team is sitting back and say ... Thank YOU Jesus .. for doing the heavy lifting.

BTW, I don't agree with everything this article says also ... but some of it is true.

 

Conservatives support children's right to life and believe in defending marriage. Whether someone else sees it differently is irrelevant. If you cannot present the conservative viewpoint as the conservative actually sees it, then you are skewing the story. You would obviously recognize the bias in a story claiming that liberals are against a child's right to live or that they support the destruction of marriage. Objectivity is where you recognize the same bias on your own side and you remove it.

 

So IOW, Conservatives do not support gay or abortion rights. Right?

 

IOW? I'm not sure what you're asking here.

 

In Other Words and yes, conservatives do oppose gay marriage and abortions. To say that is wrong because you want to phrase it different is inane.

 

But effectively, from the position of a person who feels that they should have an abortion, or that they should form a marriage that falls outside the definition that conservatives would like to apply, conservatives are the ones telling them that they shouldn't be allowed to do that, right? Or at least, the people pushing for legal solutions to the problems of abortion or gay marriage are styling themselves as conservatives.

Do you think that it's true that conservatives are in favor of the existing power structure? Politically speaking, isn't that pretty much the definition of conservatism?

 

And that is the other side's point of view. It is not the objective middle position from which an unbiased article is written. Thus framing those issues from the position of the person wanting the abortion or wanting an alternative version of marriage is no different than presenting it from the other side. The perspective is still slanted. It is not objective. And the inability or unwillingness of the writer to recognize or correct this betrays his/her true opinions on the matter and/or inability to see the issue objectively.

This is incorrect. Not so much about abortion (although it is not dissimilar to pushing for legal solutions to stop any other violent crime) but about marriage. Technically, it is the people pushing to change the definition of marriage that are seeking legal solutions here. They are the ones trying to change the law. Most conservatives are simply defending the current law as it exists.

It's true that they are in favor of the structure that was laid out in the Constitution. The self-sufficient, sink or swim, pull yourself up by your own bootstraps ethic which is universally applicable to everyone. Whether that structure is still intact today is debatable.

I think people like the author of the article in the OP like to try to play the class warfare card to try to hoodwink various people into voting for parties that, as the author even admits, do not represent their values. Or it might just be pure honest ignorance due to his/her inability to see the situation objectively as we've already established.

 

So an objective way of writing it could come from neither perspective, for or against, is what you're saying.

Okay, that makes sense. I mean, I disagree, but it makes sense.

But the founders of the constitution, some of them, were still able to interpret the constitution in such a way as to allow them to own slaves. That's not very self-sufficient.

 

It's racist to try and pigeonhole a race like this. Shame on you, cigar.

 

While we're peripherally on the topic of gay rights, it is worth noting that the black community as a whole doesn't seem very tolerant of gays.

 

African America and White America have become separate nations. The relationship between the two is a zero sum game. Most Whites and most Blacks are political enemies.

 

I am surprised that with all the posts prior to yours there wasn't anything mentioned about the most glaring aspect of blacks in America: In spite of the fact that if they were left in Africa, they would be one of the most ignorant humans on this planet exceeding just the Australian Aborigines in average intelligence......who until recently learned the number greater than TWO, i.e., One , TWO .....then, MANY.

Sub Saharan Africa is one of the most culturally blighted areas in the world that didn't have a written language until recent historical times ..... and that was mainly English & French.

Instead of tooling around in "cadillac cars" and dying early because they stuff themselves with greasy soul food ......they'd be munching what their African bros are eating and that's, more or less, pebbles & grass.

Yes, their ancestors suffered grievously in America.....but, even that was due to the fault of their African bros who sold them into slavery. And, it was not the blacks that freed themselves....it was the whites that gave them their freedom.

So, when one considers the total picture, the blacks in America should feel extremely grateful to be in America......and are really behaving as a bunch of ingrates.

What is especially galling, is their whining about their "victimization", and their prize Extortionists and Scamsters Jesse Jackson & Al Sharpton, The Heckel & Jeckel Combo. Constantly howling & yowling how the Blacks in America are being victimized whilst receiving, PROPORTIONALLY the largest share of our tax dollars for welfare because of their even now, unbelievable welfare & crime rate.......destroying our schools with their thug-like behaviour.

All this, in spite of the fact that the CORRUPT Congressional Black Caucus TOTALLY CONTROLS the Dem Party......because without the monolithic Black RACIST Vote of ~10% of the Total American Vote ..... the Dem Party wouldn't exist. The Black establishment knows this.....and so does the Dem Party......And, the Blacks in power are taking advantage of it.

If there is any RACISM in America, its BLACK RACISM BY FAR !!!

What's the positive aspect ?

Clearly, in the field of Entertainment, proportionally, they are the greatest. Clearly, the Blacks are the most superior athletes of the World. And, clearly there are noticeable strides in their improvement even though one wonders, sometimes, if America woulda been better off if this race never existed.

Are there some Negro greats intellectually, or politically ?

Answer: Of course. One has names like the brilliant Prof Thomas Sowell of Stanford Univ whom I'd elect as President of the USA in a blink of and eye. Alan West, Alan Keyes, Larry Elder, Star Parker ...... and many other blacks who are wonderful citizens of whom America should be proud of.

 

African Americans may be conservative in some of their personal views, but that doesn't matter. They vote in overwhelming numbers for leftists. That makes them part of the leftist political coalition. It also makes most African Americans my political enemies.

 

I agree with you 100%.

 

Perhaps it would be wise to remind our Black population that it was the Jefferson party of democrats that were fighting to keep slavery intact. It was the party that would eventually become republicans that were fighting for their freedom. All blacks not in chains today need to find the closest republican and give them a hug!

 

It's socioeconomics. You can't just hold an entire race back for 200 years then just say "You are free, now be smart".

People with little resources and very uneducated parents will typically grow up to be uneducated. And unfortunately uneducated people breed a lot of uneducated children. I was raised in private schools all the way through college, and the minorities I ran in to were no different than the white people I ran in to. Even the one black guy in our fraternity stereotyped the blacks that lived in the hood couple miles from campus.

And what's interesting was he was adopted by a wealthy white couple in Chicago... and he talked and walked like the rest of us.

It's going to take couple generations before the black culture assimilates in to the Western world. And it's going to have to be a pivotal moment were the youth rise up and reject their culture and change it.

 

When I was a young man the Black family was mostly in tact. Today the Black family has been smashed by federal social tinkering. Black and White Americans don't have a common future. In fact, America as it currently exists has no future.

Edit: Black kids are never going to receive a decent education in American public schools. They will be warehoused like livestock. The public schools can't be reformed because of vested political interests. There isn't any hope for these kids.

 

I blame crack!!

 

The federal govt. destroyed the Black family through its social policies which ended the need for a nuclear family.

I also blame Black people for believing that someone would come to their rescue. No one is coming to their rescue.

 

I figure by the year 4012, they may have their own indigenous space program in Africa.


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When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic

– Benjamin Franklin

 

De Tocqueville said the same thing in Democracy In America.