[POLL] Should CEO's have the ability to tell employees how to vote?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by E_Pluribus_Venom, Oct 18, 2012.

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Should business owners have the ability to tell employees how to vote?

  1. Yes, absolutely.

    16.3%
  2. No, not at all.

    75.5%
  3. I don't know. I'll explain.

    8.2%
  1. E_Pluribus_Venom

    E_Pluribus_Venom Well-Known Member

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    Sure, it is. It's threat of dismissals based on ambiguous preliminary data, all without proving (in definite) that the preferred outcome won't produce the same or worse.


    Based on inconclusive data, it's a threat. Advice is advice when it's a) warranted, and b) credible beyond repute.
     
  2. Nonconformist

    Nonconformist New Member

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    I voted yes because what Mitt Romney was asking them to do is perfectly acceptable in my opinion. He wasn't asking CEO's to tell the employees how to vote. He was asking them to explain to the employees why Romney's plan is better for business and for jobs, including their business and their job. No one suggested CEOs should fire people who did not vote for Romney or that they would even know if the employee didn't vote for Romney. Management discusses the impact of markets and finances on a regular basis, like it or not this could very well include the political process. Maybe it's because I'm not easily intimidated but I see no problem with a little open discussion about elections in the workplace. I listen to all sides but in the end I vote my conscience.
     
  3. hiimjered

    hiimjered Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is unfortunate that you would be so pedantic that you would jump on what your myopic vision sees as a contradiction rather than consider and discuss the content.

    Still, are the comments and ads from the left claiming that republicans will destroy everything threats just as heinous as the ones from this company, or are both just warnings based on what the respective speakers believe.

    If you reread my post you will realize that I consider neither to be threats and was describing both when I was explaining that they were just warnings.

    But enjoy your perceived victory rather than try to understand and contribute to the discussion.
     
  4. Max Frost

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    Really? I have worked in several jobs from worker to manager. No where did we ever have a meeting like the type you describe. It's legal for sure for them to be doing this but also somewhat coercive and unethical. Boss you mind your private biz like who you vote for and I will mind mine is a good rule.
     
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    So freedom of speech doesn't apply to businesses owners, based on suppositions by people on the outside? People usually end up being business owners by being able to judge the economy, and the forces that impact it. Personal beliefs (with basis or not) are on of the factors that play into running abusiness.


    So no one should be able to open or close a business based on their own opinions, should not discuss the economy, or the forces that could/would impact it with their employees, because it is unwarranted advice? That's one hell of a sales meeting you just sat through..... ;-)
     
  6. E_Pluribus_Venom

    E_Pluribus_Venom Well-Known Member

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    How is that proven? Because you said so? Who's to say politics wouldn't motivate a newsletter that suggests one candidate over the other? That's a very important question to answer objectively.


    More so because it's inconclusive preliminary side-speak that is easily arguable, at best. You give an incontestable amount of weight to a business owner, when you haven't the slightest clue as to whether the "advice" is sound, or politically motivated. Ridiculous... especially in the face of termination "if a specific objective isn't met".
     
  7. PropagandaMachine

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    Absolutely not for them to do so is the definition of the subversion of democracy. Hell no.
     
  8. Taxcutter

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    Unions have told their members how to vote for decades. Sometimes the workers obey.
     
  9. Clint Torres

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    Only as much as religious prechers and rabbits.
     
  10. LasMa

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    There were employers who told employees that if Obama was re-elected, there would be layoffs. There was an employer who attached a copy of his own filled-out ballot to employees' paychecks. There was an employer who told employees he expected them to donate to Romney. Let's note that all of this was illegal before Citizens United.

    Hell no is right. It's hard for me to think of anything more profoundly un-American than threatening your employees' jobs if they don't vote for the guy who promises to give you, the wealthy boss, a tax break.
     
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    bizarre! I thought the US was supposed to be a democracy ... you know, voice of the people and all that ....
     
  12. LasMa

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    "Corporations are people too, my friend." -- Mitt Romney
     

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