Poll: U.S. majority supports Jan. 6 criminal charge against Trump

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  1. glitch

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    I am aware that Trump is most likely guilty of seditious conspiracy, and even a judge has stated such. Make all the excuses you want for that man.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can you please post the methodology?
     
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    Appeal to Authority (argumentum ad verecundiam) logical fallacy.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Never mind. Found it!

    What a steaming pile of intentionally misleading garbage. 1004 people that have nothing better to do than answer unidentified callers and answer questions do not represent the population. Those with successful careers and families are not represented in this survey, so this "conclusion" people are expected to swallow without question, was predictable.
     
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    "Poll: U.S. majority supports Jan. 6 criminal charge against Trump"

    Yeah but, the majority are political moron's .. sheep running what direction the propaganda du jour suggests.

    What "seditious conspiracy" are you aware of . what did Trump do. You have no idea it seems.. but in the second fallacy - the first being appeal to the masses of raging idiots aka "popularity" and yours being appeal to partisan authority .. you wish folks would buy into your "seditious conspiracy theory"

    I See .. hmmmm .. nope .. not buying it :)
     
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    Trump urged people over false allegations.
     
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    Yeah because a judge knows less about the law than you.
     
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    So if I find two judges that agree with me then my argument is correct? Logical fallacies aren't valid arguments.
     
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    Thats hilarious .. good descriptor of most every politician .. got anything substantive mate .. something other than reminding us that free speech is still legal . barely .. and if Blue has any say .. "barely legal" will be off the store shelves .. in an ironic role reversal .. don't you think :)
     
  11. Arkanis

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    Several months before the 2020 election, I posted tons of polls here that all said the same thing: Biden had a good lead and FiveThirtyEight gave him a 90% chance of winning.

    All the MAGAs on the forum were laughing at me.

    The polls were lying, just like in 2016....
     
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    Make up any argument you want, the investigation continues.
     
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    I think your defense of Trump and what took place is a complete joke and devoid of any reality since you asked.
     
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    Or at least they actually FIND something he "did". They're getting desperate. They're becoming Mueller Part Deux.
     
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    As a Democrat voter, you may want to focus on a winning strategy. Jan 6th is a loser. Maybe try the SCOTUS leak where they will be sending back down to states that which belongs to the states. You know, argue for much more fed control vs with the people of each state. Big govt, just what democrat voters like
     
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    I didn't defend Trump ... one iota .. just laughed at your criticism -- akin to complaining about a strawberry being red .. .. and thus it is your response that is "devoid of any reality since you asked" - and "a complete joke" - funny how that works sometimes .. aye mate :)
     
  17. Arkanis

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    I thank you for the advice.

    I appreciate it.

    But my winning strategy is to not listen to what the MAGA's advise me.
     
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    This particular poll uses a sample size of 1004 people that have nothing better to do than answer unidentified callers and answer lengthy surveys. The question wording is leading: "As you may know, Donald Trump encouraged his supporters to march to the U.S. Capitol, where the riot followed."

    Those with successful lives and relationships are not represented in these numbers. Also, 25% of the participants answered the call on a landline phone, meaning they sit at home with nothing better to do. Perhaps some of the participants were watching Law and Order and knew that evidence of a crime is required before bringing someone up on charges.

    Conclusion: about 500 of those racking up frequent loser miles believe there is evidence of a crime based on an anonymous caller. This is why the Nigerian prince is still in business.
     
  19. Arkanis

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    We don't give a damn.

    We're looking for the opinion of the voters.

    Maybe you want to compare the economic profile of Democratic voters with MAGAs?
     
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    You found a misleading conclusion that requires profound levels of gullibility to consume as fact. Sure lets compare voters...
     
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    I don't believe he should be criminally charged, unless more were to come out his reluctance to send the national guard. I've heard that it was actually Mike Pence who gave the order to send the national guard to regain control of the capitol, and that Trump was reluctant to because he was supportive of what was going on. However, at this point in time I would consider this information to be nothing more than a rumor. If more information were to come out proving this story, I would support criminal charges. Otherwise I'd say he failed his basic duty as an elected official of accepting the process and encouraging the peaceful transition of power, but this is not a criminal offense
     
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    No they didn't and you can't produce a statement of him doing so. That being said if Trump committed a crime why do you think AG Garland and the Biden DOJ is covering it up?

    But I would ask you this what about Harris and Schumer just to name two telling people to engage in insurrection and violation of 18 US Code 1507 should they be charged with crimes?
     
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    Let's start from your position that he didn't do anything wrong. If true, can you explain any of the following?

    1. Why did he tweet for his supporters to go to the Capitol ("it will be wild").

    2. Why did he *knowingly* lie to his supporters that Pence didn't have courage (when Pence was the one honoring his oath of office).

    3. Why did he say that he would walk with them but didn't and went back to the WH to watch it unfold on television?

    4. Why did he "gleefully" watch the angry mob attack those police officers? (No sane person could call that a "lovefest").

    5. Why did he ignore Pence's and Pelosi's requests to call for back-up (that is part of the POTUS' job).

    6. Why did he ignore the desperate calls from lawmakers barricaded inside offices knowing the police officers outside were not in a position to help them.

    7. Why has he never acknowledged the officers that were injured and the ones that died (Sicknick that day, 4 suicides) and hundreds of injured cops?

    8. Why did he distance himself from the Capitol rioters and hasn't acknowledged them other than saying he would pardon all of them, if re-elected?

    9. Why did he continue to repeat the Big Lie and take in millions of dollars from donors (some fraudulently) without presenting any evidence of election fraud.

    10. Lastly, even if you can rationalize, justify or excuse all of the above...why was he reportedly angry that Pence was escorted to safety?

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    NONE of the above actions are indicative of behaviors of an innocent man.
     

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