Polls show Biden will win - like Hillary, right? Opinion

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  1. Lesh

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    If he had the votes...why did he refuse to ALLOW a vote?

    Bullshit

    And the "lie" was his claim of a "Biden Rule" preventing a vote.
     
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    Actually, the current polls are inaccurate and very similar to the polling in 2016.

    https://heavy.com/news/2020/06/latest-trump-biden-polls-wisconsin-trafalgar-group/
     
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    He had the votes to be the Majority leader and as the Majority leader he had the prerogative to schedule OR NOT schedule a vote. Duh, like I said, he acted in full compliance with existing rules and procedures at the time, the dems are planning to lie and cheat.
     
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    Nevertheless, the company has been criticized because its numbers for those states significantly overstated Trump’s support. It predicted that he would win Michigan by 4.5%; his actual margin was 0.23%. For Pennsylvania, its prediction was for Trump to win by 4%, but he actually won by 0.72%. This tilt toward Trump caused Trafalgar to make the wrong call on Nevada, predicting a Trump win by 5% in a state Hillary Clinton won by 2.4%.[8] In all of these cases, the polls by Trafalgar was either no more accurate, or less accurate, than other polls
     
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    That is NOT the same as "having the votes" for a SC nominee

    He USED that prerogative to steal that seat..and he lied out his ass to do it
     
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    "Cheat" infers that some rule or law is broken.

    Obviously not the case involving increasing the number of seats on the SC bench
     
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    Hmm, he is doing 1% better in battleground states than he did at this point of time in 2016. The real October surprise just hit the airwaves 2 days ago and it will be daily non-stop till the election day drip drip drip of Hunter's email describing in vivid details how Biden crime family peddled the country to the highest bidders (usually America's adversaries).

    Trump just had an amazing townhall, he finally came prepared and wiped the floor with the rude and nasty leftist activist masquerading as moderator. The next debate is right around the corner, the polls are about to miraculously start tightening..... I would not count my chickens if I were you, but the distinctive quality of the libs - they never learn, not even from their own devastating mistakes, like the 2016 election LOL
     
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  8. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So what you are saying is that Biden "suckerpunched" the far left by promising to end fracking, embrace the "new green deal" and entering to a sort of "manifesto" with Bernie. He also brings in as his VP the Senator furthest left of all Senators. Sorry Centerfield.....somethings not right here. If Biden goes completely off the rails and thinks he's just in a Senatorial race like he mentioned the other day.....we get Kamala if elected. You don't think that is far left? I actually heard her say she would use an Executive order to take our guns.
     
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    Lol...Here's another nothingburger for ya.


    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/16/...om-former-administration-officials/index.html
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Pretty dangerous thinking to promote a permanent change to the judicial branch. How much packing is too much? It makes it no better than an unelected, appointed Senate!
     
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    So what he is saying is the left might change his mind from his past record. See how flakey he is? He changes with the wind. He's like putty in the hands of his handlers. He got rich in China and the Ukraine.....it's all he cares about.
     
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    I do not like Kamala Harris. When he picked her I profoundly lamented it and posted accordingly. I sincerely hope that Biden doesn't croak in the next four years, if elected. Yes, Kamala is much more to the left and I don't like it. But I think Biden still looks fairly healthy, and no, he is not demented. And yes, he is posturing so that he doesn't lose the votes of the left fringe of his party but no, I don't expect him to be a leftist president.
     
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    CenterField Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What handlers? Who says he has handlers? That's a campaign talking point.
    Oh, he flips flops, how horrible! It's called being a politician. They all do it. Trump one of these days was calling off the stimulus negotiations and the next day was begging for them to be restarted
    He got rich in China and the Ukraine? Says who? His net worth is 9 million, half of it comes from valuation of his 4.5 million dollars waterfront house that he bought for much less decades ago, and the other half mostly from book sales. Forbes published a detailed analysis of his net worth and there is nothing there that comes from China. Just relatively recently when his son was dying of brain cancer he wanted to sell his house to help with the medical bills.

    I think you are mixing up that piece of s.... Hunter Biden who seems to me like a crook, and addict, and an alimony dodger, with Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. The latter is the one running for president, and the latter didn't get rich in China and Ukraine.

    Meanwhile, who knows who Trump owes money to...
     
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    Do you think Biden can actually handle himself? Do you think he actually beat Bernie Sanders on his own merit? To me, he was put in place because he has never accomplished anything and can be viewed as "middle of the road". He liked the War in Iran, didn't want to take out Osama, was for giving Iran Billions in cash......wrong on so many things for so many years. There is a collage of stories he has made up. Yes everyone likes Uncle Joe and his stories.

    It's called a" fair weather politician' wich he is one.

    He is a chip off the old block and Joe supports his entire family, making them rich as they sell access. His brother is a builder in Iraq and has no knowledge of the trade. Of course Hunter made millions from Russia China and the Ukraine and thanks to his laptop we are finding out he was to reserve 10% for the "Big Man" (daddy)

    I would expect a multi billionaire operation like Trump Enterprizes would always owe a fraction of his net worth wouldn't you? That's just business. Don't tell me you could begin to cipher all of his highly complicated tax forms. I (unlike most Democrats) would leave that up to the IRS and their multitude of lawyers.
     
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    So you must like to gamble? You can trust Joe Biden about as far as you can throw him. He will pack the court if told to do so. At best, he is a one term President. I think you better get used to Kamala if he is elected. She could never have done it on her own. If Biden was truly a Centrist, he would have put Tulsi Gabbard on his ticket. Biden is a globalist at best. He will give American sovereignty away to foreign powers and once again , be in the sack with China.
     
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    Trump is losing women in virtually every demographic group even in rural or red states. Trump is having more trouble with less educated white males, and seniors. Last time Trump did not have a record to defend. Really hard to sell yourself as the solution to problems when you've been President for 4 years - not solving those problems.

    On the other hand Biden is a lot more likable than Hillary, more trusted than Hillary and not as scandal scared as the Clintons.

    The American public is just plain sick of Trump's reality show of lies, tweets, conspiracies and division. He is sooo expired.
     
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    Sure, pal. And the sky will fall.
    All the stories about corruption are made up as far as Joe Biden is concerned (I wouldn't say the same for his son, but many families have bad apples)
    You fell for Giuliani's made up hard drive... LOL. That story doesn't pass the smell test.
     
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    CenterField Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, Trump in his Town Hall said again that we'll have beeeeaaaaaauuuuuutiful health care... and the moderator said "but you had both chambers of Congress for two years and did nothing... you've been president for two years and still there is no healthcare plan." I hope the electorate isn't fooled twice.
     
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    Contact has been made with one of the recipients already and verified. Lot more credibility here than with the Steele Dossier bought and paid for by Hillary!
     
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    What....did he say you can keep your doctor?
     
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    This election is only partially up to the electorate this time, thanks to the virus, and an administration and GOP that will use any flimsy excuse to toss out ballots and foster mistrust and conspiracies. My secret worry is that a lot of county election boards, and Secretaries of state ( state level) have made accommodation for social distancing rules, trying desperately to save these elections and lives, without paying enough attention to process, without seeing to it that state legislatures were called into emergency session to pass supporting legislation with an affixed Governors signature and that may bite a lot of voters in the backside. Courts will be asking a lot of 'where'd you get the authority?' kinds of questions and they may not like the answers. I live in Oregon so all our processes that accomplish these same goals,have been fully vetted over a decade. This is the perfect state to vote in if you want that ballot counted without standing in line for 8 hours next to someone coughing and a five year old sneezing and complaining of a headache 4 feet further. . I sure hope I am wrong here, but other states are sort of winging this on the fly.....I do worry.

    I really thought we'd take the senate a month ago, but now I think the GOP will hang on by one.
     
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    I doubt it. It's all made up.
     
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    Who cares? Obama is not running. Are you using the "but Obama" defense? Two wrongs don't make a right. Obamacare at least does efficiently protect people with pre-existing conditions.
     
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