Polls show Biden will win - like Hillary, right? Opinion

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  1. CenterField

    CenterField Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are 100% correct. I have voted by mail in my state and I have verified with the local board of election that my vote was received and counted, and was clean, having passed compliance with all the rules. But yes, many states including mine are running into a total mess.

    For example, in my state a witness signature is required. The Board of Elections then ruled that if an envelope lacks a witness' signature they will contact the voter and ask for an affidavit saying that the ballot is legitimate. Well, a federal judge *correctly* stopped that, saying that they can't cancel the State law that requires the signature of a witness. They can shred that vote and ask the voter to submit a new one with a witness' signature, but they can't eliminate the requirement unless the State Assembly votes to eliminate it and the governor signs the bill into law. These are well-intentioned mistakes, but of course, Trump who will lose by a lot, will challenge the results using everything he can.

    In this case thankfully the glitch was found and stopped by the judge before a single affidavit was submitted... because if they had proceeded this way, Trump would have grounds to invalidate the result in my state (which is a swing state that Biden is projected to win by a hair).
     
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    The ONLY reason Trump won in 3016 is because there were a bunch of far left commie sanders supporters who decided that since he didn't win the nomination they would rather see the country destroyed by Trump.

    Trump won because Bernie supporters voted for him in a huge margins, despite being completely against most policies he, because there are whiny little b****** who were pissed off that Hillary won the nomination.

    this is how the far left works on a very regular basis. They would rather see someone who they completely oppose based on policy, and morality if their favorite candidate doesn't win the nomination. This is why the Democrats lose so often because they're full of morons who would rather throw the election than see someone they don't like be the nominee. If they are in the losing side of democracy then they'll just see the democracy destroyed
     
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    That's why Trump a non-career politician got elected. His favorability dropped after refusing to answer the questions.
     
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    :roflol:
     
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    There is nothing permanent about the number of seats on the SC bench. Never has been
     
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    Would that be Derkach...the Russian agent?
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What is it about "Sleepy Joe " that appeals to you most? The fact he stood on the primary debate stage with other leftists and raised his hand when asked "would you provide healthcare to those that come to America illegally?? He is an open border globalist for sure. How does a "bad apple" like Hunter, with little business experience, use his fathers influence to walk away with millions without his fathers knowledge or consent? Remember, they held out 10% for the "big guy".
    I am an America First guy. I like that concept. I think the 47 year establishment clown has you in his grips!
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It has been accepted that nine is a number than can sit across the table and discuss. The fact they need an odd number is a given. So in your mind, what would be a good number......111 politically appointed un elected bureaucrats? There would be little difference between them and the Senate other than the fact they couldn't be removed.
     
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    If only you could have been so discerning about the Steele Dossier. If it is all made up, why isn't Sleepy Joe denying it? You say it doesn't need further investigating? So you are in favor of shutting down the story? That's what they do in Communist China!
     
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    "In my mind" means nothing.

    The fact remains that there is no number of seats mandated and in fact that number has changed many times
     
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    Your supporting a man with 47 year track record that has finally seen the light. He was a stooge for eight years of Barrack Hussein Obama and his biggest claim to fame during the primaries was "me and Barrack this......me and Barrack that!" Those are Obama brags by association. You don't get off the hook there buddy! Single payor Socialized medicine is the goal here for those with a leftist bent! Government control to the largest extent the Nation has ever known. The individual liberty of Americans taken away for good. Rationed healthcare in exchange for big government security!
     
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    You should learn to use your mind and see the forest for the trees. Packing the court would be the beginning of the end for the balance of power our Founders saw and promoted.
     
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    The names not familiar. Would that be Hillary's Russian agent who composed the unverified Steele Dossier?
     
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    I'd say the polls were pretty accurate in 2016, they showed a very close race. RCP averages had Clinton winning the popular vote by 3.3 points, she won it by 2.1 points. Well within the plus or minus 3 point margin of error. So, yes the poll were accurate

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e...rump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html

    Another big difference is at this time in 2016 there were 15% of the electorate either undecided or stating they'd vote third party with Trump having a 5 point lead. This year Biden has a 9 point lead with but 7% of the electorate in the undecdied, will vote third party column. Trump had a big pool of undecided's to pull from to over come Hillary's 5 point lead, he didn't actually. But won via the electoral college. Trump has a rather small pool this year. Another factor is Hillary never was above 45% in RCP averages, whereas Biden has been running between 49-51. All important numbers.
     
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    That would be the Russian agent that has been feeding Ghouliani this garbage

    I like the Trumpian "I don't know who that is" dodge though
     
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    CenterField Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We'll see who will be laughing after November 3rd. Apparently even Trump's campaign manager is convinced that he will lose, say insiders, although of course he won't say it publicly.
     
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    CenterField Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What I like most about Joseph Robinette Biden Jr., is that his name is not Donald John Trump.
    When Biden raised his hand to that, I was dismayed, since I abhor illegal immigration. But I have my priorities and I think that despite that, Trump is even worse in many other matters that are actually more important to me, right now.
    Are you under the impression that an adult who is 50 freaking years old needs the permission of his father to do anything??? How old are YOU to think like this? Gee!
    10% for the "big guy" - obviously coming from a made-up, fabricated lie sponsored by that crook Giuliani, helped by foreign sources. Credibility, zero.
    Nobody has me in any grip. I just don't want the disaster known as Donald J. Trump to continue to screw up like he's doing. I hope Biden gets elected, but with the Senate still in the GOP hands to provide checks and balances especially if he croaks and Harris becomes POTUS. That's why I voted for Biden but also for my state's Republican senator.
     
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    I think you're utterly mistaken about what kind of healthcare ideas Joe Biden has been preaching. Get informed. He is NOT for socialized, universal health care. You're paying attention to too many campaign talking points from the Trump side; they constantly mischaracterize Biden's proposals. And again, no, the sky won't fall if he's elected. We'll survive and be just fine.
     
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    Exactly. This time Trump will lose unless he cheats (and he will cheat).
     
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    Trump isn't going to win.
     
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    Go ahead.....support the "big Guy" who took out CornPop!
     
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    So you are saying the "Big Guy" has it in the bag?? We will revisit this post.
     
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    Since you are so informed on the "Big Guy" talking points.....will you please inform me as to whether or not his free healthcare for illegal aliens still stands? Or are we supposed to forget he raised his hand?
     
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    The Big Guy, a figment of Giuliani's imagination? No, that Sasquatch doesn't exist.
    Joseph Robinette Biden Jr., though, is real, and will win. Then of course Trump will contest in court claiming bogus fraud, and may very well prevail, transforming American into a Banana Republic dictatorship.
     
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    He raised his hands and I abhor it. But that's political posturing. One, I doubt he'll ever try to implement it. Two, if he tries, it will never pass Congress even if the Dems have a supermajority in both chambers. There is no way that politicians who eventually run for re-election would vote for something that most likely is strongly opposed by at least 90% of the population. It would be political suicide. Who would support extending free healthcare to the citizens of other countries who are illegally here, when millions and millions of American citizens don't have any coverage??? Even most leftists aren't for something like that. Only the most radical fringe is truly for it, probably no more than 5%.

    You seem to be a bit naive... you don't know how populist politics work, and how candidates lie and make impossible promises to win votes, and then forget all about them once elected. And sure, it's lack of integrity, but this integrity ship has sailed away from American politics already and for a while (the last one who had some, John McCain, is dead), so if we were to discount voting for candidates who posture and don't really mean what they are saying while they are fishing for votes, we'd have to sit out ALL elections because they ALL do i

    Obviously the candidates only said that they were for it because they want the votes of the legal American citizens who were foreign born or were born here of foreign nationals. Legal Hispanics are four times more numerous than the illegal ones, so they are a juicy voting block. So in campaign they say so... and more specifically, during the primaries, when it's more interesting to cater to more radical views... then they all tend to go center, once nominated.

    Have you heard of Joe defending free healthcare for illegal aliens, now? He knows that outside of the primaries, it's political suicide so he has completely stopped talking about it. That crazy loony moron called Bernie Sanders did have it *in his platform* but while they all raised their hands, the others weren't stupid enough to include it in writing in their platforms.

    Regarding posturing and broken promises, pray tell, where is that beaaaaaauuutiful healthcare plan, much better and cheaper, that we were supposed to have day one after Trump's inauguration??? Four years later, have you seen it??? What did he say about it once he got elected, after promising it over and over in all rallies? "Who would have known that healthcare was so complicated?" Pray tell, has that check from the Mexican government been cashed already to pay for that beaaaaaaauuuutiful wall along the entire southern border??? Still, that's what Trump said in rallies, over and over and over and over and over again. Do you really think that he thought that it was achievable? Of course not! Contrary to the left wing view of him, Trump is not stupid at all. He just knew that this impossible promise excited his base, so he made it, repeatedly, knowing perfectly well that he would never be able to obtain this kind of thing from the Mexican government. Raising that hand about this other impossible pie-in-the-sky is exactly the same thing; they all do it.

    Seems like you got fooled by your own idol. And now you are getting all outraged because of obvious pandering that has a smaller chance of becoming reality than a snowball in Hell? Pffftt... Go worry about real issues, please. Free healthcare for illegal aliens on our taxpayer's back will NEVER happen in America, regardless of who is the president and who controls Congress. For this to happen, the radical left would have to have a supermajority. Currently they have precisely 1.7% of the Democratic Congressional Caucus. They are strident but they will never be able to pass such an unpopular legislation.
     

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