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Post-Roe, Why We Still March for Life

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by XXJefferson#51, Jan 19, 2023.

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    it does though your explanation was poor.


    this isn't an explanation you're just making up thoughts of your own and assigning to them to people because they don't agree with you politically.

    The pro-life of movement is not concerned with birth only that's something you made up.


    What point are you trying to make here? That pro-life people are mostly reasonable?
     
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    the government forcing rape victims to have their rapists babies is very unconstitutional

    what is next?

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy 22:28-29&version=NIV

     
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    Half of the people who will march will be unvaccinated people, who claim it is their “ Right” not to be vaccinated. but for rest of us , they just want to shove down their belief system.
     
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    A fetus is a human life. You're saying the same thing.
     
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    Dave Barnhart wrote about the Pro-life movement

    "The unborn" are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don't resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don't ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don't need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don't bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. It's almost as if, by being born, they have died to you. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus but actually dislike people who breathe.”

    “Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn.”
     
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    Let me help you out with your nonsense propaganda graph on maternal mortality.

    upload_2023-1-20_7-44-29-2.png
     
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    My explanation is consistent with objective fact gathered from 22 years of observation. And to give that 22 years some context, that was how long ago I began to pay attention to politics.

    Actions speak louder than words, slogans, and memes and it is the actions of Pro-Lifer's that I have based this assessment on. Not what they say in internet comment forums, but how they act. So no, despite your desire for it to be so, this is not something I'm making up purely out of partisanship. I would suggest what I already did, that you take a step outside of the right-wing bubble and analyze the situation from an objective position.

    My point was exactly what I said it was. That some Pro-Lifers would even prefer a woman give birth to a dead baby than have an abortion.
     
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    Yes, you are correct. However, it is only birth that the many Pro-Lifers care about. Their concern for "life" has an expiration date.
     
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    YES, BUT THEN REPUBS CAN WHINE AND MOAN ABOUT FUNDING ENTITIES THAT CARE FOR POOR CHILDREN...IT'S HOW THEY ROLL...IT'S ONLY "PRECIOUS LIFE" IF IT'S IN A WOMB AND THE WOMAN CAN BE CONTROLLED BY THEIR LAWS.

    AND WOMEN'S "LIFE" IS MEANINGLESS TO THEM
     
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    If it demonizes women and erodes their rights NOTHING is too big for Repubs.
     
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    I thought you all wanted it to be a states issue ?
     
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    They did until they started having referendums and saw how unpopular it was. It was never about states rights, it was about control.
     
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    Bingo!!!
     
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    If true...yikes...

    "Republicans in Arkansas and Oklahoma introduced bills this week that would allow authorities to criminally prosecute pregnant people for seeking abortion care. The legislation offers a terrifying preview of what’s to come in a country that no longer has federal abortion protections.

    Oklahoma Senate Bill 287 and Arkansas House Bill 1174 were proposed with the specific intent to criminalize anyone who gets an abortion. The Oklahoma legislation aims to amend the state’s near-total abortion ban to eliminate language that protects pregnant people from prosecution. The Arkansas legislation would let the state’s homicide laws apply to aborted fetuses and give them due process protections, while also repealing protections for people who “solicit, advise, encourage, or coerce a pregnant woman” to get an abortion."
     
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    You think you can bully women. forcing them to bear children against their will. They will defy your laws.
     
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    Roe v. Wade was wrong because it didn't prevent legislatures from restricting abortion. SCOTUS should have invalidated all anti-abortion legislation.
     
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    Their name is still apt


    whose actions list all of the people involved and their actions if you don't know that then you're just making assumptions based on a political viewpoint.


    Is it really name them do you know any that believe this or you just making **** up?
     
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    So is someone declared brain dead
     
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    How many women having miscarriages will be jailed under this?
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jun/03/california-stillborn-prosecution-roe-v-wade
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-await-women-post-roe?leadSource=uverify wall

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59214544
     
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    The lower graph was RvW the top graph was Romania I posted both to show clear correlation no matter where you are in the world
    upload_2023-1-21_9-13-34.png

    Here is the link for the research paper for the first graph https://www.researchgate.net/figure...ive-Births-in-Romania-1970-2005_fig2_51919144

    Whereas the lower graph is America
    upload_2023-1-21_9-12-48.png
    https://www.guttmacher.org/gpr/2003/03/lessons-roe-will-past-be-prologue
     
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    Uh, what ???
     
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    Dobbs v. Jackson does not invalidate federal legislation that even supersedes state laws. We have a federal anti-abortion law now--Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003. Dobbs does, however, allow states to pass legislation banning abortion they could not pass because of Roe v. Wade.
     
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