Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

That is the Truth.

What the Bible does is get people to talk about this social issue.
It collects them into a world size classroom.
It prepares the way for a change in their lives by gettingthem focused on the subject of what we do, why we do so, and what is it all about for us.

The first step was to spread the gospel over all the world.

Now is the moment when the audience, saint and sinner both, learn that Christ is The Truth which men must worship with the faith that Truth is the only light into the world and the only way man can survive since thinking is his only weapon.

6 I, (as the personification of the concept, Truth), am the way (men ought be), and the truth (corresponding with Reality), and the life (eternal for our species): no Man cometh unto the Father, (almighty Reality), but by me, (Truth)

 

No, that's not it...obviously you have failed to understand the true message behind Job's life. It happens when not thoroughly reading the entire book of Job and so you when you just pick out a certain part of the entire passage you come to an erroneous conclusion of what the message was.

The true message of the book of Job was to illustrate that ultimately God is in charge and knows what He is doing. And one is better off to remain silent and be in awe of God's sovereignty. In the end, God had restored Job's health, possessions, and family.

 

What do you mean, first time you hear a Christian say that God knew men were going to sin? God is omniscient, surely I can't be the first Christian you heard if from. You probably just haven't been talking to a lot of them I guess.

God gave us commandments to live by, when commandments are broken, punishment is in order, that's the only way you learn to live the right way.

If you are a caring loving parent of a child, surely you are going to raise the child with rules to abide by to help protect your child. You already know that your child is going to do some things that are wrong. If your child disobey your rules, you are going to punish the child to make the child understand that your rules are to protect him/her and eventually your child will begin to understand that you are punishing them for their disobedience because you care and love them and are protecting them.

 

So why does YHWH give the punishments so far after the rules are broken and make that punishment eternal? That's not really a loving care-taker, but the act of a heinous dictator. When my son breaks a rule, he gets a reasonable time out and possibly has a toy taken from him. And, then, after the punishment has happened, he goes back to playing and he gets his toy back. He doesn't have me beating him for the rest of his life and then beaten as a shade for the rest of eternity. Yet, YHWH's punishments are always post-death (conveniently) and are eternal (unjust). No theodicy I've come across can really adequately explain this.

 

What would you call Him that gives people, who believe in Him and love Him, eternal life in His Kingdom of Heaven, a life of eternal bliss forever and ever? No more tears, no more crying, no more pain, no more death, just total eternal bliss! Is He still that heinous dictator?

What do you prefer that He should do to people who don't believe in Him, who don't love Him, who don't abide by His commandments, who don't accept His only begotten Son Jesus Christ as their Lord Savior?

Given the magnitude of the punishment why would anyone reject the other side of the coin...eternal life in paradise? Clearly if you see both sides of the coin and still choose to reject Him then what else is there for you but self-(*)(*)(*)(*)ation.

It is your choice, wherever you go, it is your choice where you spend your eternity.

 

Argument from Perfection and not an ounce of it can be proven. Other that, OK.

 

Yes, well, that would be your perspective.

But then..you aren't Christian, and you aren't God, so your perspective is entirely irrelevant. And in fact, one wonders why you even care?

Christians of course believe that a desire to be closer to God is what compels many of the lost to constantly attack the saved.

 

His is not but yours is? How's that? His perspective is just as relevant as yours.

 

Okay. So how did the three-toed sloth, an animal famous for being, well, slow, cross at least one continent and the Atlantic ocean? How did army ants, a notably non-nautical species, get to the Amazon basin? And why is there no evidence of any such migration? Of course, this is all just garnish on the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) cake that is the story of Noah's ark; the entire thing is demonstrably wrong by no less than 3 scientific disciplines - geology (no signs in the geologic column that one would expect from a global flood), genealogy/genetics (no signs of genetic bottlenecks, which one would expect to find in literally every species currently alive), and a combination of evolutionary biology/physics - you simply could not fit all the "kinds" of animals in the world onto a boat. However, it's still worth noting, just to point out how laughable it is.

Oh, and for the record? "Small population"? "Predators"? The only predators would have been the animals on the ark (somehow they abstained for 40 days and 40 nights, but once they hit dry land, it's free game?), and any predation of the species would mean extinction. Please, keep talking about Noah's Ark, I'm sure it'll make you look smart eventually...

Yes! Remember the old saying, build a thousand bridges and you're a bridge-builder; (*)(*)(*)(*) one kid and you're a pedophile? We can't ignore that god has provided an infinitely unjust and cruel punishment by pointing to an infinitely positive reward. After all, God is supposed to be infinitely good. And when you add on the fact that the way these rewards/punishments are given out are, according to most Christians, incredibly unfair, then what?

Well, let's see here... Things God could do to people who aren't willing to take Him up the ass... Hmm... That's kinda tricky, let me think for a momen-

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...Literally anything that isn't "being torture forever".

Unmake us. Make it so that we don't have eternal souls and thus our one life is all we have (which is what most of us believe anyways). Not create people whom He knows will not be convinced by the pathetically small amount of evidence He provided in the first place. Judge us on the merit of our life, and have the punishment be commensurate to the crime, rather than infinite, so that those who learn their lessons can then profess their belief and acceptance and move on to heaven after a decade or two in hell. Remember, this is God we're talking about. He can do anything.

As it currently stands, God is punishing a finite crime infinitely, which is inherently unjust. He is punishing a victimless crime, borne out of not malice, but ignorance (something he knows, because, well, omniscient) infinitely. That's bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

Because there are other religions with mutually exclusive Gods offering the exact same deal. This paragraph applies exactly as it stands to Islam. So who's right? I don't know, but I don't trust either of you, because neither can provide any decent evidence to support their claims. You're like a man standing in front of me with a chocolate bar in your hand saying, "Gimme all your money or I'll blow you up with my invisible, chocolate-powered bazooka!" - your threats don't matter to me, because I don't think you have anything to threaten me with.

I reject the notion that you can choose what to believe. What now?

 

It probably is the first time he's heard it.

Because by and large, anti-Christian bigots are deplorably ignorant about the bible, about salvation, and about Christians. They're typically on a box with some half-baked concept that is a conglomeration of PBS offerings, video games, and the rantings of their fifth grade social studies teachers.

And the funniest part...they are absolutely CERTAIN they're better informed than any Christian out there.

It would be hilarious if it wasn't so creepy.

 

What about all the OTHER fallen angels? Not one decided to repent after spending a little time in Hell???

 

Once you're in hell, it's too late to repent.

As many people will learn to their eternal sorrow.

 

Quick question. It doesn't strike you as at all unfair that God already knows that? And bizarre that he claims to love all of us, but knows he will have to torture us for all eternity?

Ever heard of Matt Dillahunty?

 

Why would God create such a cruel, unforgiving, and unfair system? And where does such a being get off on claiming to "love" us?

 

You can always tell when your getting under a Fundies skin the insults start flying.

 

No, it doesn't. He is righteous, and as a perfectly righteous being, he is a judge. There's no righteousness if one doesn't sort out the chaff.

No, I don't know who Matt Dillahunty is. Should I?

 

So the chaff is... um... People who won't get down on their knees before God? Like, say, Ghandi?

He runs "The Atheist Experience". He was a southern baptist who went to college to study the bible and then gave up the faith. In fact, virtually everyone on The Atheist Experience has a very deep understanding of the bible - most of them became atheists after reading it. Then there's Brett Palmer, also fresh out of a bible study course. Klingschor, who knows more about the Qur'an than most Muslims do. Christopher Hitchens and Sam Harris, each of which spent most of their adult lives studying the bible and Christianity. This idea that most atheists are uninformed about the bible is bull(*)(*)(*)(*) - especially because Over half of atheists are former Christians. It's a relatively common theme among atheists - "I was a Christian, and then I decided to read the bible cover to cover, and I just couldn't believe it after I was done." So, really, cut the bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

 

The chaff are those who deny Christ.

Cut the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) yourself. I can't tell you how many atheists I've heard who base their current anti-Christian stance on perceptions made when they were 11 years old, or 15 years old, or 30 years old, and didn't get the bible on the first read-through.

I promise you, you aren't disproving my theory, lol.

 

Anti science bigots (fundies) are always deplorably ignorant about science.

Their idea of an argument is always a straw man, a misrepresentation /distortion, or of course, the flat out lie.

All the while claiming to believe in "god", as they sally forth to spew falsehoods in his name.

Of course, they think they are better informed than any scientist on earth, for, lo they know the Truth.

 

I also love the ignorant assumption of the uneducated science whores that Christians are *fundie* if they resist persecution, "extremist" if they defend freedom of religion, and "anti-science" if they believe in God.

Do you know who is responsible for decoding the human genome?

Two very, very conservative eastern orthodox christians.

Are they anti-science, do you think? Do you believe your education and comprehension of mathematics compares to theirs?

I doubt it.

 

For 2000 years jesus followers have been waiting on his return and still waiting. It's not our fault you have not figured out you have been duped.......Oh and just for the record I know about the old no man knows the time or day junk thats a nice little escape clause they wrote there.

 

These things take time...the bible assures us no man knows the time...and no man does.

Second guess God at your own peril.

 

Millions have died in that time. Not worried about my peril I keep it in my desk drawer my cats love playing with that thing.

 

Really, so what happened to all the people who died before Jesus was born who just happened to never hear the Gospels?

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Can we second guess YOU...or is that the same thing?

 

And of those millions who have died, the ones who have died in Christ are enjoying eternity in his presence as we speak.

You go ahead and play with your peril as it suits you. It will bring you cold comfort.