Except of course there is no video of this occurring ... honesty seems to be in short supply from some people.
Okay................ Biology 101 Hearts beat independently of anything else - take a heart out of a body and it will continue to beat - it has nothing to do with personhood or souls or anything else - it has to do with the way the muscle fibres behave We take organs from beating heart donors EVERY DAY!! And these are adults and, sadly. children not potential humans. Usually the brain has died but it can still be grossly intact. Now the brain dies before all other organs when the blood supply is interrupted So I will give you a scenario that is obviously at odds with how you are imagining what has been happening The cord became twisted/knotted and the foetus died - sadly this does happen, or maybe the placenta separated prematurely and the foetus died - or maybe there was an identified genetic abnormality such as Tay Sachs disease, or maybe there was one of a hundred different reasons for aborting a pregnancy gone wrong - and maybe that mother wanted to find out more about why her wanted pregnancy ended so badly Bottom line - we were not there so EVERYTHING is simply speculation
No one said there was, there is recorded testimony. There needs to be further investigation, depositions taken under oath, subpena power and a thorough inquiry that gets to the bottom of this.
no problem with investigations where they are merited .. however, until, or if, such investigations turn up any illegal activity (which I very much doubt they will) then to attempt to de-fund an organization based on what are at this time merely accusations is nothing more than a witch hunt and pandering to those who wish to see PP fail any any cost .. including justice. I wonder if or when these investigations are done and no illegal activity is found will you return here and apologise for attempting to smear PP, or will you attempt to insist that it is some "liberal" cover-up .. I know where my money lies. furthermore IF any illegal activity is found then it should only be the people involved in that activity that are prosecuted and only the clinics involved that should be closed, not the whole of the organization.
Those obtaining Federal Funding must be above reproach. These are serious accusations and a thorough investigation is certainly in order, although, I don't see much of anything occurring at the moment.
Sorry, but to me this is burning the building down because there might be an infestation. In my book seeking the truth through evidence is more important than fulfilling an obsession based on accusations. Would you de-fund a hospital because a doctor was accused of being negligent and patients died BEFORE finding out if the doctor was actually at fault?
By whom and about what - unless the witness was a medical officer I doubt a court or anyone else would accept a statement that the 'brain was intact' - and even if it WAS what is the deal? Once blood supply is interrupted - and the original statement said 'she touched the heart and it started beating' implying that the heart HAD stopped for some time - again though, once the blood supply is interrupted the brain ceases function
Further investigation based on what? The videos have been analyzed by numerous sources and thoroughly discredited. We don't need to waste more tax dollars on yet another investigation unless it's an investigation of the "Center for Medical Progress."
""Those obtaining Federal Funding must be above reproach"""" Like bankers, Wall Streeters, and car manufacturers ? ....or just women's health clinics ?
Interesting point .. does that mean you advocate for religions to be de-funded, after all "Those obtaining Federal Funding must be above reproach." and as it has been proven the Catholic Church covered up child abuse for numerous years, add to this, do you advocate for so called Crisis Pregnancy Centres to be de-funded after all "Those obtaining Federal Funding must be above reproach." and as it has been shown via videos such as the ones you support that CPC's are guilty of misinformation, lying and coercion. Then of course we have in vitro clinics federally funded, they "murder" (IYO) thousands of "babies" every year, where is your outrage over federal funding for them, why are you and those Republican representatives not calling for the de-funding of all of these organisations?
That is because they do not understand that a heart can beat AFTER it has been removed from the body Even Edgar Allen Poe knew that one!!
Yeah, harvesting a beating heart, why would that be a concern to anyone? Democrats drying up for Planned Parenthood funding? Good for Texas. Good. These other providers probably don't chop the babies up and sell their parts like gang-bangers disposing of stolen cars. http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/08/us-usa-plannedparenthood-insight-idUSKCN0R80B420150908
Except of course for the fact that Texas took a number of years to "up it's game" to cover x-PP patients and still does not offer comprehensive sexual health coverage to many.
Indeed = especially since it happens daily with brain dead donors What? Did you think we waited until the heart stopped once the brain was dead?
PP forces the fetus ... to be aborted. That's one very important fact that choicers like to gloss over. Often times plantations would utilize black slave drivers to whip the slaves into shape. Are you going to say this was not oppression against blacks, since it was in fact blacks holding the whip in most cases? No, I think your counterargument here, while it might seem intuitive on the surface, is really a non sequitur. The fact that black mothers are given the choice (and often subtly pushed, pressured, and prompted, I might add) does not mean it cannot be viewed as a form of racial oppression.
Please show proof that black women are "subtly pushed, pressured, and prompted" to have abortions. NO one ever has. Are you contending that black women are somehow different from white women or any man and haven't the intelligence or fortitude to make up their own minds ?? Looks like you are. Gee, I think of all the women I KNOW who have been pushed, pressured, and prompted to give birth.
I don't want to force birth, it's a natural process. Being able to choose exactly when a baby comes out, while at the same time having lots of sex with absolutely ZERO chance of having to deal with an untimely pregnancy, is not a "need". The woman wants to be pregnant, but "just not now", and refuses to accept any responsibility, nor is willing to assume any risk of inconvenience, no matter how small that risk is (she has multiple contraceptive options at her disposal).
So, who is forcing black women to abort and why are you not doing something about it? Are you going to stand on street corners with a sign? Are you going to lobby the government about freedom of choice? Are you, and here I hold my breath in anticipation, going to give examples of this so called peer pressure?
Any org that gets government money should not be allowed to spend it on politicians like PP does. Millions to democrats.
Yes, you want to force women to give birth, that's what Anti-Choice is all about. """""""Being able to choose exactly when a baby comes out, while at the same time having lots of sex with absolutely ZERO chance of having to deal with an untimely pregnancy, is not a "need". The woman wants to be pregnant, but "just not now", and refuses to accept any responsibility, nor is willing to assume any risk of inconvenience, no matter how small that risk is (she has multiple contraceptive options at her disposal)."""""" YES! That is exactly what FREEDOM and LIBERTY and RIGHTS mean even if the self righteous writhe in agony knowing women have all this freedom and rights and liberty - - - Updated - - - Don't know if that's true but I would think they have the same right to donate as anyone else.....and of course it would go to Democrats ..THEY aren't the slobs trying to shut PP down !!!
This was just 2014. House Total to Democrats: $404,907 Total to Republicans: $2,823 Somehow I don't find it surprising that progressives think bribing government officials to keep your taxpayer money coming is only bad if it is done by someone they disagree with. Typical hypocrisy.
