Prediction-a gun banning feeding Frenzy will happen shortly

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Turtledude, Oct 25, 2023.

  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Just TWO pathetic ANECDOTES is a "FEEDING FRENZY" according to YOU?

    HILARIOUS!
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Do you DENY that 50% of all Hate Crimes are committed by racist white supremacist BIGOTS?
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    so, are you making a statement about white Privilege? Lol
    on the serious side of things where is your evidence? who decides to classify a crime as a hate crime?
    to me a criminal is a criminal, I care less for the motivation of a moron and get tired of those trying to expand a criminal’s actions into some broader social statement.
     
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  4. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    wtf does this have to do with this thread? black thugs kill more blacks in a month than white supremacists do in years
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    That would be the government of We the People.

    One dumb hick beating up another dumb hick over who finished their beer is NOT a hate crime.

    A pair of dumb white hicks beating up a black, asian, female or LBGTQ person BECAUSE they just happen to be black, asian, female or LBGTQ is a HATE crime.

    In the FORMER the CRIME is ASSAULT.

    In the LATTER it is a HATE crime because of the MOTIVATION for the assault.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    YOU brought up "violent armed criminals", NOT me!

    The FACT that RACIST white supremacists COMMIT more than half of all HATE CRIMES makes them "violent armed criminals".

    YOU introduced this INTO your own thread, take it up with YOURSELF.
     
  7. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    woke individuals redefine hate crimes to fit their agenda. White supremacists kill less blacks in a decade than other blacks kill in a year
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    do you die less if you are shot for being a storekeeper who tries to stop a robber versus being the victim of what the left calls hate crimes?
     
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    Your TACIT admission that YOU brought up "violent armed criminals" in the thread noted!
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Do dumb hicks spend LESS time in prison for BEATING each other up than they do when they commit HATE crimes like BEATING up POC, women and LBGTQ members?
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    assuming facts not in evidence
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    irrelevant response noted. if someone shoots you because they want your wallet or watch are you less injured than if they shoot you because they hate someone who is part of the alphabet movement?
     
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    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!

    So according to YOU hate crimes do NOT carry LONGER sentences?

    Priceless!
     
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    Irrelevant NONSENSE follows. If someone shoots you because they want your wallet or watch are you less injured than if they shoot you because they hate someone who is part of the alphabet movement?

    Fixed your post at NO CHARGE, you are welcome. :)
     
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  15. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    wrong-I am saying I have a dim view of longer sentences for the same harm inflicted on a victim.
     
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    all you did was repeat what I said. How did you fix it?
     
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    Quite a few reasons.
    1) They still have gun incidents.
    2) They don't have the conflicting demographic issues we have, or the history which causes the sorts of tension you see
    3) They have a far more tyrannical form of government
    4) Some places self defense as we understand it in America is not legal
    5) Your stats you're going to cite when challenged are going to be adulterated/spun. Example: Gun deaths vs verified unjustified homicide. Gun deaths counts suicides and justifiable homicide.
    6) Their violent crime rates are abysmal.
     
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    Cultural. The US is a cultural violent country where people arm in self defence to shoot others.
     
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    And thus, it's -not- the difference in gun control laws.
     
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    You consider it gun control, your focus is on the gun, because you're American. In the EU etc.. the focus is mainly/chiefly on the person, do they have a suitable background to own/use a gun. That's the difference why the US has dreadful gun stats.

    You keep talking about the gun, we keep talking about the people, because the gun is not at fault, the person is at fault. If you allow faulty people a gun, to get your stats. I hope the gun debate is sinking in M14 Shooter
     
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    You -just- said the difference is "Cultural. The US is a cultural violent country where people arm in self defence to shoot others."
    Pick a story and stick to it.
     
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    Self defense doesn't include committing crime etc.
    Arming for self defense incase someone commits a crime against you is mere prudence, there is nothing malicious about that. There is nothing immoral about that.
     
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    He's advocating for "peaceful" slavery over dangerous freedom.
     
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  24. Nonnie

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    It's cultural. The American culture talks about and prioritises the gun, a violent culture. Other country's cultures tend to focus on the people. The conversation is pretty obvious.
     
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    And thus, not he gun control laws.
    Thank you.
     
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