Predictions: The 2024 U.S. Presidential Election.

Discussion in 'Elections & Campaigns' started by Natty Bumpo, Jan 29, 2024.

  1. gfm7175

    gfm7175 Well-Known Member

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    Democrats love to play these sorts of dishonesty games re: data and the related mathematics.
     
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    Well it's not wrong, but the missing information is important. By how much in each group is one thing, and the actual turnout of each group is another. Winning every group except 1 by 51-60 vs 40-49 can be completely offset by winning 85% of the last group and that last group having the best turnout, for example.

    And then there's the electoral college, which gives an unfair advantage to people who live in sparsely populated states, and purple states.
     
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  3. Arkanis

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    It's because of illegals that so many anti-vax conservatives died in Idaho....

    And Trump's treatment of a global pandemic as if it were a cold that would go away with the warm weather has nothing to do with the US's appalling record.
     
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    I think you are confusing the primaries with the general election.

    In the Republican Primaries MOST of the states are proportional. Only 7 are winner take all (Montana, South Dakota, Nebraska, Colorado, New Mexico, Ohio, New Jersey and Florida)
     
  5. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    All true. I would not presume to speculate as to victor and vanquished.

    I do expect that Trump will not be able to handle the truth again if he if loses again.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Early release is what I thought you implied for criminals. Laws are there to protect victims from criminals. As of now, criminals are protected and most victims fend for themselves.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you'd love for us to believe that I'm sure.
     
  8. gfm7175

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    You continue to pretend that there is a crime where none exists.
    • The originating agencies already have all of the documents that they are "asking to be returned".
    • The documents were all declassified.
    • The documents were at Mar-a-Lago for almost two years before the illegal raid. Doesn't seem like a very "urgent" matter, eh?
    These agencies just don't want the proof of their own illegal activities re: their targeting of Trump to get out into the public eye.
     
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    That's 8 states... And you are neglecting to mention all of the states that can end up as "winner take all" if a candidate meets certain requirements (of which Trump will likely meet in a lot of such states). Such states include CA and TX, which are A LOT of delegates.

    IOW, you're oversimplifying the rather complex primary rules.
     
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    Says random guy on the internet ... meanwhile VP Pence absolutely refused to do it because he KNEW it was not legal and
    dozens of legal scholars have said it was not ... but we'll believe you.


    Right.
     
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    Not to mention that THREE Grand Juries have recommended indicting him. That means THREE judges looking at the evidence and not a single one of them going "Where's the crime here?"
     
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    So if I have documents that list the capabilities of all our warplanes, as long as someone else (in the government) has the same documents then there's no crime if I just keep the ones I have? That's not how it works

    I don't know how many times I have to repeat this. CLASSIFICATION IS NOT AN ISSUE. He is charged with violation of 18 USC 93(e). Classification is not part of the criteria that makes this a crime. The documents simply have to be "related to the national defense"

    It wasn't an "illegal raid" it was in conjunction with a validly issued and served search warrant. And the only reason they had been there almost two years is BECAUSE TRUMP REFUSED TO RETURN THEM. That's part of the charges against him. The government was bending over backwards to give him a chance to do the right thing. You keep claiming that he is being treated worse because he is Trump. The fact is that if it had been you or I with these documents we would have been arrested two years ago. He was being treated BETTER than anyone else because he was an ex-president.

    They don't want it to get out in the public eye? He's been indicted! It can't get much more out in the public eye.
     
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    She does it to make the left uncomfortable when they attack her.
     
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    "Says random guy on the internet"
     
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    They will not attack her until Trump is out of the picture, if that ever happens. Then it's full force on Haley!
     
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    Oh, I'm sure that's right. But I believe she will prevail.
     
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    Doesn't say much about your feelings for the bench. I see good candidates but they are good for the country, not necessarily able to win the election. Therein is the difference between my preferences and those of the political parties.


    He was also governor of WV. He would jump at the chance to replace Biden on the ballot.


    The DNC will decide who is on the ballot at the convention. So whoever they choose will get on the ballots with ease.

    The difference between choosing a candidate who is best for the nation rather than putting electability above all else. The political parties have no confidence in the competence of the voters and I understand that.


    He is a sensible centrist - too liberal for the republicans and not woke enough for the democrats.
     
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    I don't think he wants to resign or end his candidacy. I believe he will be told to do that between now and the end of the convention. You may remember the weekend in which the DNC told Sanders to end his candidacy in 2020 and inserted Biden. Sanders had better poll numbers but was probably not electable. That Biden won't be the nominee is an opinion, obviously, not a fact. It is my prediction and I have ability to see the future. So it is an opinion, nothing else. I see the DNC doing to Biden what it did to Sanders in 2020.
     
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  19. Endeavor

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    Maybe you don’t know this, but Joe Biden is POTUS, the most powerful man on earth, and DNC is a political organization with no power.

    So what DNC tell or not tell to Biden, Biden don’t give a f$$$$.
     
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    Maybe.....but do you think she can call out the media as effective as Trump does?
     
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    I for one hope Biden keeps stumbling along!
     
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    It doesn't matter what you or I believe. It's reality and everyone outside of Trump's cult sees it.
     
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    I don't think Trump is effective.
     
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    No - what has come out in court.
     
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    that's hilarious. Biden's been a pawn all his life.

    he doesn't have the brains to be otherwise
     
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