President Trump, first lady Melania test positive for coronavirus

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  1. nopartisanbull

    nopartisanbull Well-Known Member

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    UC Health today

    How you can PREVENT superspreader events;

    Wear masks

    Avoid crowds and limit the number of people at events

    Stay at least 6 feet away from people

    —————-

    Very simple, however, not yet well understood by the below average intelligent people.
     
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  2. Chuck711

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    Chuck711 said:
    Chuck711 said:
    Listening to Trump is hazardous to your Health :

    Red Deaths yesterday Blue Deaths yesterday
    Cali is dem 43

    Texas red -------------------- 135
    Florida red -------------------- 83
    Ny blue ------------------------------------------------------------ 2
    Georgia red ---------------------28
    Illinois blue------------------------------------------------------------ 31
    Arizona red ---------------------12
    NC really is a toss ----------------------------21
    Nj is blue ---------------------------------------------------------------- 3
    Tennessee is red ------------45
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Total 303 Republicans Deaths 79 Democratic Deaths

    This is yesterdays Deaths. They have been posting these numbers or more for months



    These are recent deaths

    Noticed the word " yesterday " ?

    Typical daily numbers of the latest trends of a few months

    Always the same Florida, Texas and Georgia posting high daily deaths numbers

    Politicizing the Virus by Governors and TRump resulting in Dead Americans
     
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  3. HurricaneDitka

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    Yes, I understand what you were measuring. Do you understand why it was a stupid piece of analysis?

    Let me help you out:

    The top two states you labeled "red" are indeed "red" states in our modern political parlance, but you're completely ignoring that 43% of Texas voters and 47% of Florida voters supported HRC in 2016. We have no idea if those 135 deaths in Texas were Republicans or Democrats. If the deaths were evenly distributed along the same partisan breakdown as the state, nearly half of them are Democrats. Do you see the flaw in trying to use these numbers as evidence that "Listening to Trump is hazardous to your Health"? What about all the dead people that listened to Cuomo in New York? Was listening to Cuomo hazardous (WAY more hazardous than any other governor in America) to their health?
     
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  4. Chuck711

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    Republican Governors of Texas, Florida and Georgia have opened up the state even as the Virus deaths have skyrocketed
     
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    "Skyrocketed" to ... a fraction of New York's deaths. If you're trying to tie a state's death totals to decisions by governors, you've got that big, ugly death total in New York hanging like a millstone around your argument's (and Cuomo's) neck. What did he do so terribly wrong to get twice as many deaths as any other state in the Union?
     
  6. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As a pseudo data analyst married to a full-blown data scientist, I can assure you that almost nobody understands what they are measuring.
     
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    I disagree with him about his "poisoning the President" theory though...

    It depends on the topic...
     
  8. MJ Davies

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    Has anybody heard anything about how FLOTUS is doing? I did a quick search but didn't see anything.
     
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    I guess the Left didn't suggest Trump was faking it:
     
  10. ChoppedLiver

    ChoppedLiver Well-Known Member

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    There wasn't a gawd damned thing wrong or racist about the thread title.

    How 'bout you explain why you thinkbelieve it was racist.

    We'll wait...
     
  11. Condor060

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    Reading the side of the box that states these mask do not protect you from Covid isn't science. Its commons sense.
    Giggle away.
     
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    squidward Well-Known Member

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    I'll be the first to tell you that no controlled studies have ever been able to establish their efficacy in reducing incidence of disease.
     
  13. Condor060

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    Its basic math. A mask that has a 3 micron web can't stop a virus that is .03 microns. That doesn't need a controlled study to figure out that these over the counter mask don't do squat to protect you from Corona virus. Thats why they state it on the box. Again, just a little common sense goes a long way.
     
  14. Curious Always

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    They slow down the water droplets flying out of your mouth. The disease carries through those droplets.

    Months and months into this, and people still refuse to educate themselves.
     
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    They can easily see it for themselves with a simple test but still they deny what they can see with their eyes.
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They prove it when they speak about it. "Wah.. my mask gets wet when I wear it."

    DUH! That's why you are wearing the mask, you covidiot.
     
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    Then you should work for the mask manufacture since you know so much more than they do. Hence the warning on the box the mask came out of.
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sigh. Perfect and good are not enemies.

    Locking your door isn't 100% effective. Nor is locking your car.
    Wearing a seatbelt is not 100% effective.
    Condoms and birth control, not 100% effective.

    You use things every day that are not guaranteed to work. You use thousands of things each year that are not perfect, but help you in whatever you are doing.
     
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    Actually a controlled study would be needed to show that they actually prevent something. One never has to prove that something doesn't do anything.
    Thats the default.

    Now even at 3 microns, the masks catch a significant percentage of droplets, and that's what they hang their hats on. They just don't realize that it doesn't matter. More than sufficient amounts of virus are getting out and they have never been able to demonstrate decreased incidence of disease, the only metric that counts
     
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    Oh boy
     
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    And it CLEARLY states on the box (Does not protect you from Corona virus) so theres that
     
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    Then maybe you should put up a chain link fence to stop mosquitoes. Would be the same thing.
     
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    The virus is suspended in water droplets.
     
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    And those very same water droplets absorb into your mask. You use your hands to adjust, remove, and continually move it around. You are continually touching items that have been through the hands of hundreds.

    I guess the declaration from the mask manufacture on the box is only as good as the media you have sworn an oath too.
     
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    You changed the issue.

    Your new point has been discussed before... Plenty of threads
     

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