Pro-Russian separatists are forcing the Jews to regenerate themselves as Jewish."regi

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  1. bobov

    bobov New Member

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    Register for what? What are you talking about?

    "Government by putsch." What is the government of Crimea now? If Russia invades Ukraine, what would you call a government imposed by an army? What about Russia's attempt to bankrupt Ukraine by raising the the price of their gas 20 times? Is this democracy in action, or am I "misinterpreting"?

    I wouldn't expect anyone today to accept war and death and vast expense to honor a moral obligation. If North Korea invaded the South; if China invaded Japan; if Russia invaded Europe, I would be very surprised if the US or anyone else offered more than token support. Our allies sent small token forces to aid us in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the allies suffered casualties, but these were still no more than symbolic gestures. I don't expect anyone to come to the aid of Jews because there's nothing in it for them except moral distinction, but politics doesn't work that way.

    Sending ammunition and supplies is a low-cost way to help, but casualties are hard to sell to the people at home. That's why Israel needs to be as strong as possible, because no one will help it any more than they'll help the Arabs.
     
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    Are you suggesting that rabbis always lie ?


    You see, Litwin, that's an example of playing ' Pin the Swastika '. It's an emotive tool used by third-rate politicians and rabble-rousers. This phony leaflet is merely a clever example.
     
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  3. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

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    no , i am suggesting that you are not a big fun of the rabbis, am i wrong?

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    +1...........
     
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    Who did you have in mind ?
     
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    litwin Well-Known Member

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    the rabbis in general ..
     
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    There are good and bad. Some are decent folk, others are depraved maniacs. This Ukrainian dude doesn't appear to have any previous or outstanding warrants.
     
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    Since Jew-hatred was never rooted out of the Ukraine, you will find such sentiments expressed by a certain portion of both the pro-Russia faction and the Ukrainian nationalist faction. Playing the anti-Semite card in this context is thus getting off-topic in an unprofitable direction, except to say that extremists get away with more when times are unsettled.
     
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    litwin Well-Known Member

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    are you an expert on ukranien and great Russian (Muscovy) nationalisms ?
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And yet the Jews hated Nixon. I think it was because he didn't appoint a Jewish judge for the Supreme Court, but I'm only guessing about this, I might be wrong. You're right though about this registration thing being something dreamed up by the junta in Kiev, since they were given orders to get rid of the Nazis in their government because it was giving them bad publicity.

    The nationalists I know were doing some crazy things in Kiev. I did read that the Jews had formed a group for protection and they were being taught first aid, etc. I also read that the reason it was being kept hush, hush, and nothing was being said about it is that they were being trained by ex Israeli soldiers on how to get rid of Yanukovich and told the Jews not to worry and that the U.S. had them under control. Yeah right, the way the U.S. has the terrorists under control in Syria. It's probably true though about the Israeli soldiers, since some of the wounded are rushed off to hospitals in Israel.

    The Jews though are not the only ones worried about the Nazis in Kiev, I know that in Crimea the Russians and even the Greeks wanted Russian passports for protection, and this is why Crimea declared its independence. This is also why there was a fight in the Ukrainian parliament...since they were blaming the nationalists and their language law for losing Crimea. It's also the reason they're having so many problems in the Russian speaking sections in the East and South.

     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Meanwhile the Russian seperatists in eastern Ukraine are acting like Nazis, clamping down on Freedom of Press, Freedom of Speech, and kidnapping elected mayors.

    This is the future that Putin brings to Ukraine.
     
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    Please quit calling Jewish people 'the jews' that is seriously antisemitic. Jews like all other people are individuals not a borg.

    Regarding protection. Some of them protected themselves during serious unrest but the person interviewed said this was the norm now and they no longer felt the need to do it.

    Again regarding this borg 'the jews' in Western Ukraine, as I understand there are different viewpoints which seems to be more based on age. The old ones are more scared and keeping themselves to themselves while the young ones are just getting on and have been while they have been involved in the protests and change of government just like other citizens and loving it from some accounts I have heard.
     
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    BS, they restore freedom of speech.
    They were prohibited to watch TV in Russian language, now they restored their freedom to watch any programs they like.
     
  14. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    says the guy who says all Germans are Nazis.

    :roflol:

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    Neither Jews, nor Muslims or Christians are "a people", they are religious groups composed of many different peoples.

    Ashkenazi Jews and Ethiopian Jews are two different peoples that stick to the same religion, and that is the reason why both these ethnic groups with different racial traits are called Jews.

    Who believes that the white European Ashkenasim and the black Ethiopian Jews are the same people, is just a crazy nutter.

    THE Jewish people is an invention of Zionists, there are many different Jewish peoples, like it is the case with Christian peoples and Muslim peoples.

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    Where and when did I say that Germans are Nazis?
    What do you smoke?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I stated that the world hates Nazis and you responded with an international poll showing that Germany is a well-liked nation. Conclusion? You equate Nazis with Germans.
     
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    but i can not compere with you my friend, specially your history related posts
     
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    This is all lies, job or provocateurs sent from the Maidan. They were so anxious to start that "great patriotic war". I hope they will get what they deserved, a bullet hole each.
     
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    I wish that for Putin and all the other Russo-Nazis.
     
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    Do you agree with the view of the chief rabbi of Donetsk who claimed that the recent antisemitic hoax was intended to discredit the Jewish community and foment conflict in the region?
     
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    and delivered by S Bandera personally
     
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    i dont , Putler´s fantasists have intimidated Donbas Jewish community
     
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    So you are more informed than the rabbi on the ground. On what basis?
     
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    From USA Today:

    “Olga Reznikova, 32, a Jewish resident of Donetsk, told Ynet she never experienced anti-Semitism in the city until she saw this leaflet."

    You also claim to be better informed than a Jewish resident of Donetsk....Interesting!
     
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    i am only one here, who gets the first hand information (in Ukrainian) understand the local rules of the game
     

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