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  1. litwin

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    really? if i was a jew i ´d be scary of this is Donbas leader

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    The idea that your perspective has more legitimacy than the local rabbi on the ground is laughable.
     
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    Yes, really. Your propaganda is tiresome.
     
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    Not sure if anyone said this yet but distributing pamphlets is like the oldest propaganda and misinformation trick in the book. If Russia doesn't have a Jew registration policy why would some pro-Russian separatists expect that they're going to have one? Sounds incredible to me.
     
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    local rabbi was intimidated by your RuSSki nazi friends

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    Jews support their state, not the alcoholics, and terrorists . that's why "Russian separatists " hate Jews +
    vatans need money, as usual . look like Putin does not provide them with free vodka

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    really?, i spend 2 days to staged them ...
    a simple question to you : Gubariew , a fascist on not?
     
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    Prove it.
     
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    So now your quoting a Russian website. Isn't everything from Russia propaganda?
     
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    ok, is Gubariew (well know pro-putin leader of Donbas ) , a fascist on not?
     
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    I have no idea. Never heard of him. In any case, the leaflets were a hoax. Do you accept that? And why do you accept propaganda from a Russian website?
     
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    look, maybe you ´d read some more information about the subject ? i asked you about the pro-Russian leader (president) of Donbas region. and the fact is that pro-Russian leader (president) of Donbas region Paul Gubariew who was a member of the neo-Nazi organization “Russian National Unity” ( Русском национальном единстве ) and then a councilor the racists and anti-Semitic Progressive Socialist Party of Ukraine. there are panty of photos of him , i have seen even video. or you think it all have been staged by CIA?

    question: if you was a Jew ´d not you be scared of the leaders like Gubariew ?
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_National_Unity
     
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    I tried to do some research on him but nothing substantial came up on the search engine. Here is what I think. There is plenty of propaganda coming from both sides. The trick is to read between the lines. USA Today and the Guardian are hardly pro-Putin. I'm more inclined to believe the accounts of a local Jewish resident in Donetsk as well as the leading Rabbi and the people's governor, Denis Pushilin, as reported in these publications than the claims of somebody like the CIA or Kerry.

    According to the Guardian, assistant rabbi, Ieguda Kelerman commented:

    "Although Jews sometimes encounter 'everyday antisemitism' in Donetsk, the government has never adopted any discriminatory policies towards them."

    In my view, the leaflet hoax is likely to be part of a coordinated propaganda offensive being undertaken by the West in which claims of historical antisemitism in the region are exaggerated while the heavily neo-Nazi Western Ukraine (formerly Eastern Poland) as a major recruiting ground for Nazi Germany during World War II, is being deliberately underplayed.

    I also think that stories are almost certainty being concocted to show that those responsible for anti-Semitism are under orders from Putin.

    Thirdly, it's my view that Kerry’s reaction is being purposefully mischaracterized in order to not only blame Russia, but to do so in a threatening manner.
     
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    really? here we go
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavel_Gubarev bunch of links
    http://ostannipodii.com/ru/a/201403...v_okazalsya_rossiyskim_neonacistom-110002823/

    http://uapress.info/ru/news/show/18232

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    the best one
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    and here the answer, why pro-putin´s terrorists and collobrationists hate Ukrainian Jews

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...rs-financial-rewards-russians-igor-kolomoisky

    Kolomoisky - JEW WITH the FISTS , my favorite guy

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    not me my friend - journalists , Russian doest have Latin alphabet

    dont worry Putin get his man out , and very soon. dont forget Gubarev´s crew is on the loose
     
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    So Litwin you like Kitscho and Tyahnbok, well according to Wikipedia, this is your Swaboda Party with it's calls for: One race, One Nation, One Fatherland in it 2011celebration of its WW2-era Waffen-SS Galicia Division.


    The party has often staged commemorations honouring Ukrainian nationalist leader Stepan Bandera and the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA). Bandera lead the UPA in its struggle against the Soviets and later the Germans during World War II to establish an independent Ukrainian state but also engaged in acts of ethnic cleansing including the massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia. In a 2011 march organized by Svoboda to celebrate the WW2-era Waffen-SS Galicia Division, participants shouted “one race, one nation, one Fatherland."

    The party seeks to put a stop to immigration into Ukraine, and to make sure that only ethnic Ukrainians can be employed as civil servants.
     
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    It's encouraging that neo-Nazis like him who attempt to illegally take over government buildings in east Ukraine are being arrested. Is their the same intent to arrest the neo-Nazis in Kiev?
     
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    Here Litwin are some more excerpts about your favorite Kiev Nazis from a columnist. It should also explain why Kiev is trying to discredit the protesters in the East and South.

    "... neo-Nazis were at the forefront of the Kiev coup that ousted elected President Viktor Yanukovych, a reality that the U.S. government and news media have been relentlessly trying to cover up.

    Although real-time reports from the scene in February chronicled armed and organized militias associated with the neo-Nazi Svoboda party and the Right Sektor attacking police with firebombs and light weapons, that information soon became a threat to the Western propaganda theme..."

    "...The new role for the neo-Nazi militias was announced last week by Andriy Parubiy, head of the Ukrainian National Security Council, who declared on Twitter, “Reserve unit of National Guard formed #Maidan Self-defense volunteers was sent to the front line this morning.”

    Parubiy is himself a well-known neo-Nazi, who founded the Social-National Party of Ukraine in 1991. The party blended radical Ukrainian nationalism with neo-Nazi symbols. Parubiy also formed a paramilitary spinoff, the Patriots of Ukraine, and defended the awarding of the title, “Hero of Ukraine,” to World War II Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera, whose own paramilitary forces exterminated thousands of Jews and Poles in pursuit of a racially pure Ukraine..."
     
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    Hold on a second. That would mean they arrest themselves:

    "In February, the US mounted one of its proxy "colour" coups against the elected government of Ukraine; the shock troops were fascists. For the first time since 1945, a pro-Nazi, openly antisemitic party controls key areas of state power in a European capital. No western European leader has condemned this revival of fascism on the border of Russia. Some 30 million Russians died in the invasion of their country by Hitler's Nazis, who were supported by the infamous Ukrainian Insurgent Army (the UPA) which was responsible for numerous Jewish and Polish massacres. The Organisation of Ukrainian Nationalists, of which the UPA was the military wing, inspires today's Svoboda party."

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/17/nato-ukraine-dr-strangelove-china-us
     
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    does it Kitscho have own party why he´d support Swaboda Party ? what position in Government holds Tyahnbok?

    Ukraine has Swaboda Party , RuSSia has LDPR http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LDPR_(political_party), France has The Popular Front , so what?
     
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    Someone's reasons for obsession are
    1) Russia
    2)Putin
    3)Kiselev
    4)Vatnik - a strange not foolproof term
     

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