Proof of parallel universes

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  1. Fallen

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    Scientists find odd bright spots, could be another universe bumping into ours
    Published time: 31 Oct, 2015 13:28
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    Scientists believe they have found proof of parallel universes, a phenomenon that they have long been theorizing about. Astronomers have detected peculiar bright spots that lead them to think another universe is bumping into our own.
    The finding comes from analyses of data of the cosmic microwave background (CMB) –essentially the Big Bang echo left behind - collected by the European Space Agency's Planck Space Telescope.

    The scientist behind the research, Ranga-Ram Chary of Pasadena-based California Institute of Technology, has noticed that some light spots in the CMB were glowing 4,500 times brighter than expected.

    This made Chary think that it could be a sign of a neighboring universe “leaking” into ours, the New Scientist reported.

    Given that modern cosmological theories are speaking of a “multiverse” following the Big Bang some 13.8 billion years ago, such a collision scenario is quite possible.

    Chary did not look at the CMB itself, but instead he created its model from Planck’s picture of the entire sky and “cleared” it from stars, gas and dust. Therefore, there should have been nothing left except just noise. However, this was not the case once Chary had studied the model at a certain frequency range. There were far too bright patches on the sky. If this proves to be true, it could mean that they are consequences of “cosmic fist-bumps” as our universe rammed into another, or vice versa.

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    It is also about how those spots look. Scientists say they can see that patches have signs of those that come from the era that they call recombination, “a few hundred thousand years after the Big Bang,” when hydrogen was created.
    As hydrogen consists of a single positively charged proton and a single negatively charged electron, that era has a limited range of colors.

    “The implication is that collision of our Universe with an alternate Universe that has a higher baryon density is responsible for the enhanced recombination line signature,” Chary wrote in his paper submitted earlier.

    Researchers say those signs are in the light of that early hydrogen.

    “This signal is one of the fingerprints of our own universe,” says Jens Chluba of the University of Cambridge. “Other universes should leave a different mark.”

    While these findings sound promising and have already gained the attention of other astronomers, it could be complicated to verify. The Planck telescope provides quite limited data for further study and cannot measure the spectral alterations that Chary would need to prove his discovery.

    “Unusual claims like evidence for alternate universes require a very high burden of proof,” Chary wrote.
     
  2. wgabrie

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    Universes colliding with each other, a universe with different physics from our own. Yes that's certainly something.

    There seems to be other Universes beyond the bubble that is our own.
     
  3. fifthofnovember

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    OP, I think you meant to say evidence of parallel universes. This is not proof.
     
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    Yeh. Good point.
     
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    I believe.
     
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    Earth 2 is out there. You can't ignore it forever.
     
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    Wonder what's it like?
     
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    I think it could be further qualified to "potential evidence". I see it as likely that it has nothing to do with neighboring universes.
     
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    I think we've had a glimpse.

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    Does this place us any closer to a Warp Drive? Could we achieve FTL speeds in effect by using the parallel universes as wormholes? Or could FTL speeds be possible in one or more of them?
     
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    I suggest making a device that controls and directs the Higs field.

    We can't travel faster than light because the faster we go, the more mass we gain. Eventually, we will reach a speed that makes the ship too heavy for ANY engine to propel it.

    Using Higs Boson we can work around this. We can transfer mass gained in front of the ship. So the faster the ship goes, the greater the mass in front of the ship will be. Greater mass equally greater pull. And thus we go faster and faster and faster and faster and.....

    But this new dice very helps my own theory.


    This is my theory of the origin of the universe.

    Imagine you have a rubber Ballon filled with air.

    Let's say this Ballon is the universe. The ruber is like the fabric of space time and and the air is the stuff in our universe.

    Picture this.

    We press this Ballon onto a narrow ring and squeeze. What will happen to the balloon? The pressure will cause the Ballon to be forced through the narrow ring, and cause part of the balloon to imerge and expand on the other side.



    I think this is what happens to our universe. Space and matter is forced into the narrow opening of a supermassive black hole. What's on the other side? Another universe that used to be a part of this one. Eventually, it will get big enough enough to break away (since unlike the rubber of the ballooon, space and time has no substance.)

    So when the new universe becomes massive enough, that mass will cause it to break away.

    This universe could be the other side of a supermassive black hole in another universe.

    Recent evidence have found that supermassive black holes existed even in the very beginnings of our universe.


    "The supermassive black hole at the heart of a recently discovered galaxy is much larger than it should be, and astronomers don't know why."

    http://www.space.com/30651-supermassive-black-hole-surprisingly-large.html
     
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    Space-time is granular reality cells that can be either empty or not empty, containing either energy (light) or substance (or maybe both?). The boundary, the skin of the balloon, must be something other than space-time.

    The passage through the ring (black hole) must connect through a white hole. The passage must work like a big bang in reverse, with all substance converted to plasma, then energy, and then a quantum field before exploding as a new universe.

    That’s good for budding off an identical universe, but it doesn’t explain how dissimilar universes come about. There must be a genesis process that doesn’t depend on the budding pattern.
     
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    It's proven that space time can be bent and stretched.

    So if you inject matter into it, it should expand. Like a balloon.

    Adressing you other point.

    Other universes probably do this too. Or something similar.
     
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    Yeh. That must have been where Hitler ran off to using some wierd bell shaped device that no one seemed to find:cool:

    They never proved his death or recovered his body:omg:
     
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    This guy get's it ^
     
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    The proof : anything is possible.
     
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    The interesting thing about these bright spots, is that I heard somewhere that the universe is brighter than it should be based on the available light sources.

    So maybe all the extra light is being caused by our Universe bumping up against another Universe.
     
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    Well, many believe the universe is expanding...

    In theory bending space-time is possible, IMO a black hole is philosophical evidence of this but it can't be proven...

    I'm convinced a black hole is nothing more than space being bent - matter just doesn't disappear...

    I'm sure science will realize black holes are wormholes - they will reject the idea because the math will not jibe with that idea yet will eventually accept it.
     
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    The Bell....

    At least you like to read..

    The Bell is it's own debate - there isn't much understanding or consensus on what the Bell was.... I have read everything from alien technology to time travel - and that is just if the thing even existed...

    I will say this much - Operation Paperclip got us to the Moon pretty quickly so I wouldn't doubt the Nazi's were working on funky stuff and testing boundaries we think can't be broken.
     
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    Not necessarily a warmhole. Since you will not survive the trip. You will be torn apart Adam by atom. Then the atomic remains of you and your craft will just emerge on the other side.
     
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    Well for sake of argument I would love to know what evidence physicists have that gravity has anything to do with a black hole... Realistically we have no evidence to suggest that one would be crushed going through a black hole other than the idea that they believe a blackhole is some sort of gravitational suction in space which makes no sense..

    The truth is astrophysicists (or theoretical physicists for that matter) don't really know what a black hole is - nor is there any evidence to suggest the idea exists...

    We're not advanced enough as a species to begin to understand these ideas...
     
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    Some small support is given this by the calculation that our Universe is about the size a Black Hole would be if it had the theoretical mass of the Universe. I don't know who made this calculation or how accurate it might be, however.

    I have read that a rotating black hole would not do this, though I don't know if that makes it safe to transit or not
     
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    Interesting, but isn't Paperclip and its present day results the best argument you could have AGAINST this idea. For all our advances even our present day Saturns are basically still just scaled up and much more expensive models of the liquid fueled prototypes Goddard was launching in the 1920's. If the Nazis had antigravity we....hell....THEY should have made it to the moon in 1944

    Iron Sky remains just a funny movie, (I hope)
     

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