Proof of parallel universes

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  1. Fallen

    Fallen Well-Known Member

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    You should checkout operation highjump
     
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    Is there multiple universes? I believe yes. Though, our understanding is that of simplicity for the interactions between universes. Most likely they exist seperate. We tend to think of another universe like we do galaxies, this is a mistake. We should rather think of them in a different space time continuum. As it is, time is a reflection of this universe, measured back to the Big Bang. We cannot assume another universe exists adjacent of our space time, so they cannot "fist-bump". There is most likely another explanation of bright spots.
     
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    Think about this, we can only see things within 15,000,000,000 Light years of ourselves, and the things at the later end of the spectrum would be what we would have seen near the universal beginning (or so we think). What about all that space past 15,000,000,000 light years? What's out there? Before we begin assuming bright spots are other universes we should really try to figure out the actual size and mass of our own universe.
     
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    Would you like a hypothetical argument?

    I don't really know what to say about The Nazi Bell..
     
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    We've had proof of parallel universes for a long time. Liberals are proof, they live in a parallel universe with a completely separate reality.
     
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    I wouldn't go that far M-Theory can't be proven, but I otherwise agree.
     
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    Same old same old.

    Scientists observe a phenomenon that can't have a rational explanation and they just justify their ignorance pointing to ridiculous hypothesis made by people with infantile imagination.

    This remind me a lunatic scientist who said after observing light passing thru polarized planes that its division of shadows in 6 parts means that there is another universe parallel to ours.

    We can't explain everything we observe, but please stop inventing ridiculous and good for nothing theories to cover up your ignorance.

    Just say that you don't know what is going on... that simple.
     
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    You talk of time as if it is something physically existent.

    Bad news for you, time is nothing but a measure, a reference as longitude, weight, and volume are.

    Dilatation of time is a fantasy because otherwise you should also talk of dilatation of the measure called longitude, dilatation of the measure called weight, and so forth.

    The only way for you to show the evidence that time indeed exists physically is by showing its detection. You must show time "as it is" and later show its dilatation. And later use the theory of Relativity to explain the mechanism acting for that dilatation...

    Oh, but I forgot that Relativity never explains the mechanism acting for that phenomenon "dilatation of time", so this theory of Relativity is not even a theory of science because the lack of the required explanation...

    Then, we have a "time" that has never been detected physically by any means, and we have theories that are invalid due to their lack of explanation about time dilatation, time flowing or whatever.

    So, I ask, when you mention "time", what the heck are you talking about?

    Can you please explain?
     
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    Time dilatation is a fact , our own satellites have to account for it for GPS reasons.

    The faster one goes the less they age, because time is speed and when a person or object is going a little bit faster because of lack of gravity and someone is going "normal speed" the person or object going faster will slow down (even if it's just a minute amount of time - it is still dilatation .
     
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    Time exists because we can detect a difference between clocks in space and clocks on earth. If it were only a measurement then the clocks would stay the same. So, there is a physical representation of a point where time slows or speeds up. This fact aside, without life time would not exist. The creation of the universe is not the starting point. The starting point is when life was born in the universe. What adjacent universes mean is there was nothing then something happened. Empty space was never there, that's illogical. Theoretically the only way this could happen is if another universe created a blast from one space time to another. So, we do not have another universe bumping into our own. We are a completely different space time.

    Here is one for you, prove empty space. I have a feeling that there is no such thing. What we know as empty space is not empty. We believe light speed is the fastest anything can go, yet we have already proved that a connection between... (I believe)... Two protons is instantaneous when the polarities are changed. So are we to assume this connection has nothing to do with space time. I think not. There is something else out there, in empty space that can not be detected.
     
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    Looks like I was right. They should give me a Nobel piece prize as I theorized this way before they made this discovery. I even emailed some prominent scientists at the time

    https://www.discovery.com/science/Universe-Inside-Every-Black-Hole
     
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    That looks a little like the Alcubierre idea of moving mass to allow fast travel.
     
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    Well, for each of those clocks, the clock is going at the rate of one second per second. They aren't actually slowing down or speeding up.

    It has more to do with the difference in route being taken through space-time.
     
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    I think the part that is unknown is what is at the center. The event horizon and mass are available for measurement.
     
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    I'm a proponent of the multiverse theory. Objects at the edges of our universe are receding at an ever increasing speed. That they are being attracted by another universe makes a lot of sense to me.
     
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    Of course there's a parallel universe. We enter it every time we log into PF. 5 minutes looking at posts on US politics will tell you a significant % of PF members live in an alternate reality.
     
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    I'm fine with ideas like this. They can form how to focus our exploration - checking for various kinds of evidence. Physicists hadn't even detected this acceleration in expansion until the late 1990's. Before then, everyone believed that the expansion rate MUST be slowing, due to gravity!!

    What we know now is that the expansion of our universe is happening throughout our universe. Every piece of our universe is expanding in all directions - not "toward" anything.

    Expansion wouldn't work that way if were caused by some sort of attractor. It is behaving as if there is a repulsive force permeating our universe - called dark energy.

    Of course, now we can postulate about this dark energy!! But, progress is happening.
     
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    Watch "Charlie Jade" if you're into this stuff.

    A clunky tv series which only lasted a season, but the concepts are intersting!
     
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    I think serious theoretical physics can have really interesting ideas to think about.

    For one example, Everett's "many worlds" interpretation of quantum mechanics holds that entangled particles of quantum mechanics don't just collapse. Instead, the observer becomes entangled, too. The result is that the universe splits into two complete copies - one each based on how the entanglement would lead.

    So, if the result should be your observation of "spin left" or "spin right", one gets two universes, one with you observing "spin left" and another with you observing "spin right".

    This sounds crazy, of course. However, this interpretation is a direct result of the (hugely tested) Schrodinger equation, without the additions that physicists add in order to keep "spooky action at a distance" contained inside of one universe.

    The thing is, there are a number of multiple universe ideas that aren't based on fantasy. These directions are actually supported by the logical interpretation of what we know and measure.
     
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    I actually saw a few episodes of that. As a show...it wasn't good. Avengers Endgame handled it better.
     
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    Infinite universes = infinite possibilities. So, somewhere, sometime, someone is building a weapon that destroys all the universes. And somewhere else, someone has already set it off... but also, since there's infinite possibilities, theres some that survive anyway. Apparently ours is one of them. Also infinite universes also equals infinite of each type. So there's infinite universes exactly the same as ours, and infinite universes that are different.

    Ow. My brain.

    I think maybe we're the only one. The alternative seems too complicated to be real.
     
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    Sweet! In one of these universes am I a twin to Cameron Diaz?
     
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    Yes, it was badly done. Very difficult to warm to, and clunkily put together. Having said that, I liked the novelty value of a South African setting, and the cartoonish elements (the evil corporation, the mechanism for 'travel', etc) were actually pretty good.

    TV history will remember it for another reason though ... the character "01 Boxer". Arguably the best sci fi character ever written, and spectacularly performed by Michael Filipowich. And there's something almost poetic about such a fine creation turning up in such a dud of an unknown tv show.
     
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    01 Boxer

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