Putin administration calls strike on Syria an act of ‘aggression’

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by litwin, Apr 7, 2017.

  1. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2009
    Messages:
    25,165
    Likes Received:
    759
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    its getting, really HOT in "Syria". i have a technical question , what will Putin and Muscovy do and for how long can they help Assad?

    http://nypost.com/2017/04/07/russia...n-syria-could-be-viewed-as-act-of-aggression/
     
    JakeJ likes this.
  2. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2008
    Messages:
    33,819
    Likes Received:
    381
    Trophy Points:
    83
    It is an act of aggression. Syria is a United Nations member state and the US has attacked it. War is illegal. Only a UNSC Chapter 7 Resolution can legally precipitate violence against another state.
    The US has lost all moral authority.
     
  3. Freedom18

    Freedom18 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2015
    Messages:
    276
    Likes Received:
    24
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Gender:
    Male
    Considering Trump ordered the strikes personally, it's going to be very interesting to see how their relationship will be affected. However, it is also important to note that a spokesman for Putin said Russia's support for Assad is not unconditional(source).
     
  4. Battle3

    Battle3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2013
    Messages:
    16,248
    Likes Received:
    3,014
    Trophy Points:
    113
    LOL, the UN is a joke, its "resolutions" are as political as the sun is hot, it always has been.
     
  5. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2008
    Messages:
    33,819
    Likes Received:
    381
    Trophy Points:
    83

    Political politicians ? There's an astute observation.
     
  6. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2009
    Messages:
    25,165
    Likes Received:
    759
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    why , who gave a right to alawite minority (10%) to represent this region (country Syria is dead already) internationally ?
     
    Sallyally and zoom_copter66 like this.
  7. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2008
    Messages:
    33,819
    Likes Received:
    381
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Well- to be a United Nations member state you have to be- ...... accepted and voted in by the countries of the United Nations.
     
  8. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2009
    Messages:
    25,165
    Likes Received:
    759
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    dont you think that UN must be reformed? Assad is a tyrant, people never voted for him , the last election was a joke
     
  9. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2008
    Messages:
    33,819
    Likes Received:
    381
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Well- a run of US elections have been a joke- not at all funny, but ' jokes '; nonetheless. Russia got the blame for the last one.

    Wait- the ' hanging chads ' was quite comical. Up until POW Saddam was handed over to be hung.

    Then there was the black dude usurping the harridan at the last moment- that was quite funny- and then the orange dude usurped her again ! Even ol' Bill had to grin at that one.

    Sure - the UN needs reform. The General Assembly requires more power and the Security Council has to be answerable to it. States vetoing censure for their own crimes is a nonsense.
     
    Last edited: Apr 7, 2017
  10. zoom_copter66

    zoom_copter66 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2016
    Messages:
    18,724
    Likes Received:
    10,360
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    Well the Muscovites sent another ship to the Medit sea, no word if it's being towed, and Syrian and muscovite air force in Syria on high alert. I didn't know Syria had an air force left, usually Russia does all the dirty work?
     
  11. zoom_copter66

    zoom_copter66 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2016
    Messages:
    18,724
    Likes Received:
    10,360
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    I thought Syria died back in 2011?
     
    litwin likes this.
  12. Cornergas

    Cornergas Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2017
    Messages:
    363
    Likes Received:
    149
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Gender:
    Male
    One can only hope the USA will soon be the same, maybe then it will quit creating and promoting wars and unrest all overthe planet...The USA should look at it's cesspool of a country they have.
     
  13. scarlet witch

    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2016
    Messages:
    11,951
    Likes Received:
    7,715
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    I don't think Putin is going to change any of his plans, he will continue to support Assad. He is suspending cooperation and sent a warship... probably the dictators equivalent of stomping your foot.

    On the other hand if Assad does not stop the use of chemical weapons it's going to be a whole different ballgame and I can actually see Putin and Trump engaging in a war, their egos won't allow for another solution.
     
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2017
    wombat and alexa like this.
  14. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2017
    Messages:
    16,357
    Likes Received:
    28,994
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
  15. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2017
    Messages:
    16,357
    Likes Received:
    28,994
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    As long as anyone has a veto, the UN is useless and toothless.
     
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2017
  16. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2016
    Messages:
    9,298
    Likes Received:
    4,133
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    To be honest, I see a situation with regards to Russia + Syria becoming nearly the equal of the relationship China has regarding N. Korea.... At least as it relates to restraining a client-state of sorts.

    Or defending them.
     
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2017
    scarlet witch likes this.
  17. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2008
    Messages:
    33,819
    Likes Received:
    381
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Steady- the USA isn't the ass currently humping in the White House. You'll see America when it stands up.
     
  18. wombat

    wombat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2017
    Messages:
    1,245
    Likes Received:
    482
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    Is the frigate Russia sent like a sweet carrot?. If for any reason it is sunk then its all out war is it not?

    Although its one of their latest frigates its not shall we say hugely powerful (alone) against current coalition forces in the area.

    Its like Putin is testing the waters. Sending the frigate would show Syria it is reacting to the so called "aggression".

    The relationship Syria has with Russian alone would not justify such a defence by Russia. There must be other ressons. Oil? Pipelines? Dislike of Usa presence in the middle east?
     
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2017
  19. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2017
    Messages:
    16,357
    Likes Received:
    28,994
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Someone mentioned access to a Mediterranean port as an induce for Putin.
     
  20. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2008
    Messages:
    33,819
    Likes Received:
    381
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Russia has a legitimate warm-water port at Tarsus. Russian ships frequent it.
     
    wombat likes this.
  21. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2009
    Messages:
    25,165
    Likes Received:
    759
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Even earlier before 2000 , you can find Robert Koplan lecture on YouTube. Assad clan has failed back then to bring Syria in 20c.
     
  22. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2013
    Messages:
    73,644
    Likes Received:
    13,766
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Its very small and the Russians have been there since 1971.
     
    litwin likes this.
  23. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2017
    Messages:
    16,357
    Likes Received:
    28,994
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    I didn't know that. Perhaps he's hedging his bets in case Erdogan becomes uncooperative.
     
  24. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2013
    Messages:
    73,644
    Likes Received:
    13,766
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The Russians are dredging and expanding Tartus since 2009.
     
  25. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    18,965
    Likes Received:
    3,421
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Yes, this was the sort of situation people saw producing problems with Trump - another possibility a similar situation with North Korea.
     
    scarlet witch likes this.

Share This Page