Putin celebrates his victory

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  1. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh so the election WAS rigged. I knew it. I knew if Trump wins those who laughed at us for saying the polls were rigged would turn around and claim Putin did it.
     
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    Nobody can admit to themselves that Hillary was a bad candidate to run. Her primary opponent would have won.
     
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    Trump has threatened the existence of NATO, something Russia and its allies couldn't accomplish in 40 years of Cold War. This is Putin's crowning achievement.
     
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    You figure Donald was right on this one about the election being rigged?

    Sure looks like it, doesn't it?

    Clinton 60,467,601 votes
    Trump 60,072,551 votes
     
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    Yeah I saw comments from Russian citizens and they think it will deter war. So horrible!
     
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    Just so.

    Because when the Russian tanks roll through the rest of the Ukraine, Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania, they know they can make a "deal" with Donald.

    Just like Chamberlain did.
     
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    There is a report out of the Kremlin that Putin is ill and will not appear in public in 2017.. and that he may step down altogether.

    Additionally it is rumored that Putin feels his relationship with the West will not improve if he remains in office.

    IMO.. at this point it remains in the realm of speculation.
     
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    You may want to get into proxy wars with everyone you dislike, but not everyone does.
     
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    Trump claimed the polls and the election was rigged. He claimed the whole system was rigged....................
     
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    It's funny how Clinton made the commander-in-chief argument front and center of her campaign. Apparently military personnel disagreed.
     
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    I made the case on another thread that a Biden/Webb ticket would have won. The DNC forced the worst possible candidate down the throats of the electorate ever.

    Trump has said he wants NATO allies to pay their fair share. Can you explain to me why American young people should die for people who won't defend themselves? If you are of military age, are you willing to die for them? Got kids of your own? How about sacrificing your child for them? Google "percent of GDP for defense by nation" for some perspective.

    When I ask these questions, do you know what answers I get from Clinton Dems? Nothing. Silence. I dare you to answer them.

    It is amazing to me to see the Dems, especially the Clinton Dems, become the Party of War. They can't keep their noses out of other people's business, and if foreign countries don't see things their way, they want a war over it.
     
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    I don't know if Biden would have won, carrying Obama's legacy in economy and foreign policy was shown to be a heavy weight; plus he is an insider. He was definitely their best chance, though. I contend that he didn't want to get in the way of Hillary's corrupt political machine.

    Well said on NATO. Agree with everything.

    They're loony statists. We are at the apex of the Republican movement so hopefully we inject some common sense into our foreign policy initiatives.
     
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    So true. They blame everybody but themselves. They will keep losing as long as they keep running from reality. Even Bill Maher seems to realize that their arrogance is what cost them the election.
     
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    Look at the stats posted here by Derideo. 10,000,000 Dems simply didn't show up, and that's what gave Trump the win. It was a stunning "f-you" to the DNC.

    Biden is a likeable mainstream liberal, and very experienced. Webb is a moderate-conservative Dem, experienced, and a war hero. I think Dems would have showed up for them.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...rst-thoughts-when-you-realized-trump-won.html

    Similarly, rank and file Republicans sent the same message to the Republican establishment.

    Interesting times we live in, for sure.
     
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    congratulations to Putin!
     
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    It seems that also UK is with Russia and Theresa will be a great friend of Putin ... in fact she'll be the first chief of foreign government to pay a visit to Donald Trump.

    Nice threesome ... isn't?
     
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    Highly doubtful Trump will enact much foreign policy change. America's foreign policy establishment is huge and powerful and we are already seeing the outside the bubble guy get absorbed by the bubble.
     
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    I believe the Clinton's tried to rigged it in their favor but failed.
     
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    And now you guys are claiming its rigged.
     
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    Only person like Chamberlain is Obama with his Iran deal.

    Or Clinton with her reset button.
     
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    Wow, you do? I believe Donald tried to rigged it in his favor and succeeded.
     

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