Putin - Russia Will Begin Partial Mobilization Immediately

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  1. UntilNextTime

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    A bit like the potato and pig farmers in Ukraine, hey?
     
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    You forget or don't know who Russia is friends with.

    https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/china-russia-relationship-xi-putin-taiwan-ukraine
     
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    lol. You think the US is afraid (or even should be) of China? Russia has reason to fear and distrust China. We do not! Once Putin allows China into Russia, Russia will never get China out. Russia is China's current goal, not the US. China is very smart. China encouraged Russia to do their bidding and Putin followed along like a trained dog. With Russia weakened by conflict, they are forced to let China in. And China will never leave. They will invade Russia without a shot fired. Do you not understand anything about Geopolitics (or warfare)? China is completely dependent on the US for several reasons at the moment.
    1. We feed China. In fact we feed much of the world. 1% of Americans are farmers. Farming is highly mechanized and automated in the US. These 1% feed 20% of China by their own government statistics which various world organizations dispute. Accurate measurements may be twice that high. China is the largest importer of food in the world. They can't come close to feeding themselves. The US produced 57.4% of the World's food production. Yet it also accounts for only 1% of our GDP.
    2. The Chinese economy is dependent on the US for its consumers. Without a market for their goods they would have massive unemployment. And employment is how the CCP maintains control. It is why they peg the US dollar. So they can continue to sell to the US at cost which in many cases are below their cost to produce. Why? Because if the don't there will be major strife. There already is. This means they have large stockpiles of dollars. If the dollar falls in value not only will they lose their best customer, they will get doubly hit as propping up the dollar is what drives their economy and is their reserve.
    3. The Chinese are growing rapidly. That concerns us. But they are not at the point where they can challenge us militarily. If China entered into direct conflict with the US not only would they have to deal with 1 & 2 above, China has a brown water Navy which cannot challenge the US Navy in deep water. The Chinese Navy would have to stick close to shore or patrol their rivers. If they ventured out into deep water they would lose worse than Russia is losing in Ukraine. That may change sometime in the future. But if it happens in the near future China's export access would disappear in weeks if not days.
    So we don't fear China. We are not at war with China or likely to be. We are in competition with China but not war. You are foolish to think China's aims are currently the US. China's aims are Russia and its resources. They have their sites on us to... just not at the moment. First they will dominate Asia. Wouldn't you in their situation?
     
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    Not really. The Ukrainians knew what they were fighting for.
     
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    Yeah, survival. But not who you think. Their own military/government and NATO.
     
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    Why has China bought a sh!t tin of farmland in the US and some in Australia recently and the past?

    It will be written off. As the US dollar is fiat petro-dollar currency, that is worthless to them as well as Brazil, India and South America, BRICS. A currency backed by precious metals. With the world economy about to implode, who do you think will be high and dry? No one who's currency is debt based, such as the US dollar.

    Yes, they are. More cannon fodder, much more.
     
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    Do not confuse people. At WW2 time, there were no Russians, Siberians or Armenians. There were Soviet people. That's it.
     
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    I am not confused others must be. There is no such thing as ethnic group called a Soviet. There where citizens of the SOVIET Union but no ethnic group called Soviet. The fact is that with the weird odd unique exception of the monster Stalin Russians controlled the USSR. Read history and WWII newspapers and you will see headlines such as “Russians Enter Berlin”. U.S. Forces Meet Russians At Elbe River”, “Russian Sputnik Orbits In Space”.
    The facts are that even though even during WWII the percentage of ethnic Russians but Russians controlled the USSR.
     
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    They are fighting for their own survival against Russia.

    I know it's cool to be a contrarian, but being cool isn't all that.
     
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    It has been proved Russia pumped big money into supporting Trump. Barr basically lied by omission when he released his version of the Russia report almost hours after it was released. An obvious lie by Barr.
     
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    Yes Ukraine is fighting for its survival as it has been for 1000 years.
     
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    Of course there is no ethnic group like Soviet people, but there was a common term for all the people - Soviet people, it was rather used, than terms Russians, Armenians etc. I do not know where did you pick up that Russians controlled USSR. Stalin was Georgian, Beria - as well. Mikojan was Armenian, Kaganovich was a Jew. The government was in fact multinational. As for the headlines - this is what I found in Pravda, the main newspaper in the USSR. Nothing about Russian sputnik or Russian army or Russians at Elba. For your information, at that time there was no Russian army, there was only a Red Army.
     

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    So... democrats blamed Russia for interruption in US elections and this provoked Russia to invade... Ukraine? I'm the only one who does not see any a logic in this?
     
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    I feel sorry for Russians because they are forced into military service and possibly to their deaths only to serve a delusional leader in Moscow. For what? They have nothing to gain in this war, or other wars they are planning to start.
     
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    300,000 mix of rusty old timers and newbies given 15 days of “training” and then being sent to die.

    And die they will.
     
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    LOL, it looks like the NATO Chorus is singing with full voices this morning. To the keyboards troops! :lol:
     
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    I feel sorry for so many young Americans who have been rendered sterile (or dead) by the clot shots.
     
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    Thanks for sharing your off-topic conspiracy theories. Have a nice day.
     
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    You're generally right, I feel. But what will happen if Putin decides to put a 'toe in the water' with tactical nuclear weapons?

    Putin's less likely to try to flood Ukraine with 300,000 'reservists' than he is to use those reservists to suppress any rebellions among Russians in Russia! But, unfortunately, I don't think he's bluffing about nukes, at least not in-theater, tactical ones.






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    I am reading it could be up to a million reservists. There are protests in Moscow and flights are packed full leaving Russia
     
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    Holy cow! I hadn't been aware of this until you mentioned it, and I have found a supporting story here: https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-at...clause-of-mobilization-decree-says-media.html

    The whole 'reserve' situation is getting more and more interesting:

    https://news.sky.com/story/russian-...emely-dangerous-military-expert-says-12702607
    https://www.understandingwar.org/ba...russian-conscription-reserve-and-mobilization







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    They will get it too. If Russia wants to commit suicide to prop up the failed dictator Putin then let it.
     
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    I realize your job as a troll is to lie but this is dumb even by your remarkably low standards. Ukraine has lots of experience using MLRS and the HIMARs works exact like any other MLRS. No need for NATO personnel at all. I get it that HIMARs makes you Russians crap your pants though.
     
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    Turkey, Slovakia, and Hungary are dragging their feet on approving the entry of Sweden and Finland into NATO, and it is now thought that this will drag out into 2023. Our Turkish 'buddy', Erdogan, is happily sucking both Russian and NATO 'teats' right now, so the united front we need against Russian aggression still cannot materialize for months to come. :roll:







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    I took a dump this morning and that turd sitting in the toilet is worth about the same as Putin's 300,000 unwilling conscripts.
     
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