Putin - Russia Will Begin Partial Mobilization Immediately

Turkey is an odd member. They play both sides of the isle which clearly you can't have as we are seeingg

 

Turkey is not odd .. so much as it is difficult. Turkey is --as you point out - a very important member - having huge geographic/strategic qualities .. especially if we are talking the Black Sea -- but also in relation to the Middle East. This is a Big player we can not afford to do without - is a lynchpin nation.

 

Finland and Sweden will join and will do so this year.

 

Yes seen that on MSM and internet VOA and others. Price of flight out of RussiasStan jumped to $6,000. Yet there are not enough protests. A hundred thousand protesters in Moskva would be beautiful.

 

You have to be brave to protest in Russia, considering what they do to protesters.

 

Tak, you are correct.

 

Hope you are correct.

 

Ukrainian forces are getting intel but there are no NATO boots on the ground on in Ukraine.

 

QANON load of crap!

 

You just admitted that there is an ongoing genocide of the people of Donbas by the Nazi contingents, yet you showed no remorse or shame and are excusing it with accusations that the militias in Donbas were committing genocide. Nor did you present proof that civilians were being targeted by them. Killing and fighting combatants is not the same thing as genocide and ethnic cleansing.

So according to your reasoning, Russia would have every right to start bombing and killing the civilians in Lviv as retaliation and yet they're not doing it now are they? This is the real difference between being civilized and humane and being non civilized.

 

You're right, we need Turkey -- but -- too bad that in dealing with Turkey we have to engage with an unpredictable, problematic, temperamental dictator like Erdogan. He's totally unreliable.





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If your primary aim is to get your opponent to fold, you don't bet in a way that commits him to the pot.

In other words, you don't unnecessarily escalate, especially early, so as to keep the stakes low. Biden did the opposite. Now 50-70k Russians dead. Congratulations, you just committed the guy with more nukes than anyone else

 

NO, did no such thing. The genocide started when Russians were sent in and The Russians and the Russian separatist terrorists committed genocide.

 

The escalation was by Putin. Ukraine Needs to get ready and respond to the potential of a horde of murerers being sent into Ukraine.

 

We can rely on Erdogan to act in his best interest.. Turkey has been very active in asserting itself over the last couple of decades ... actions in Libya and Syria. Did a big "FU" to Trump - going with the S-400 system .. along with India --- a function of Trump using the economic Nuclear option .. his biggest geopolitical blunder IMO.

The global economic order is being restructured .. everyone is positioning themselves - and repositioning. If dealing with Turkey was bad . how about El Saud - two weeks after calling the leader nasty names in public .. then having to kneel and grovel to increase oil production.. how about Venezuela - how ridiculous was that .. cup in hand to Venezuela .. and OK .. embellishing a bit with Venezuela but still ..

This is not what "Winning" looks like .. and I am not talking the war in Ukraine .. talking about US hegemony .. and the state of the world economic order. This war is both exposing and exacerbating the cracks.

Am a bit concerned about October -- the month that Stock Market likes to Crash

 

US weapons helped ensure 50-70k Russians were killed. Now Putin is committed to the pot. We are trying to get him to fold. The reason we are trying that, is our commitment to the pot = willing to march on the Kremlin to remove Putin. We aren't willing. So we must be trying to get him to fold. I'm saying our strategy to do that sucks.

 

What strategy do you propose to stop the invasion?

 

All is not well in Putinland as he keeps having "allies" killed. Of course, Putin and his cronies always claim these people just happened to fall.

 

All I have ever heard about Russia is “quit murdering everyone you disagree with”, “keep your poison dope in your borders” - even US addicts won’t touch it. Your future cannon fodder is going to be shooting holes in both feet!

I gauge Putin future by how sick they say he is or isn’t. The more he kills the better his prognosis is! What a way to run a country.

I just hope our mental cripple doesn’t sleepwalk us into a nuclear war. Hell, we might even take out Iran and China, to boot! At least freedom will have a chance to survive.

 

The Ottoman Empire did not grow through force, but through manipulations, deceptions and hypocrisy since lying to non-Muslims was not against their beliefs. Throughout history they played one side against the other, and especially when it came to the friction between the Orthodox and Catholic Church.

Erdogan is not an idiot and knows his history well. He knows that Sixteen times the Ottomans went to war with Russia and 16 times Turkey lost. He also knows it was in backing the wrong side in WWI that caused the break up of the Ottoman Empire by the British. To him this was unjust and that all lands from Mosul to Thessaloniki rightfully belongs to Turkey.

There is a great deal of pressure on Erdogan from the secular nationalists in Turkey who call the Aegean their Blue Homeland and with a disregard towards the Treaty of Lausanne, believe that the Greek islands were stolen from Turkey. Of course, they're ignoring the fact that the people living on the islands are not Turks, they're Greek. But then again ethnic cleansing and genocide has always been their forte.

There are lots of problems in that part of the world, as well as in the Balkans, Baltics, Arctic, Central Asian states and Far East and they're coming to a head. Washington like the Ottomans before them, rather than striving for peace, is trying to manipulate everything towards their own benefit. Instead of gain though, the world will soon be up in flames. Pres. Aleksandar Vučić of Serbia believes a major war will break out within 2 months.

 

My beloved Jeannette [you know I love you] ...
In the meanwhile, a lot of Russians are escaping to Serbia [your mention of Serbia has made me think to this].
But ... not a few Russian businessmen have already moved there: Serbia doesn't know international sanctions, so that Russian businessmen can run their business from there without problems.

Anyway ... if I have to spend my two cents [proverbial two cents] about Turkey ...
Turkey is playing a particular role in this crisis. Ukrainians use Turkish drones to kill Russians, but Turkey imports Russian gas paying it [partially] using rubles. Turkey is substantially in the middle. It's an interesting position.

But now that China is increasing the pressure on Moscow to stop the war, Turkey risks to be excluded from the stage.
The question now is which is the geopolitical goal that China wants to get.

Personally I think that China wants a quiet Europe to focus its attention on Taiwan.
Let's wait and see ...

 

I think China is much more clever than Russia in that they see the larger picture. They WANT trade with the west. The've done well for themselves having strong trade with the west. And while they want an anti NATO coalition to insure the soverienty of their dictatorship, they need the global economy to get back on track from where it was before COVID.

It will be interesting to see how they deal with Taiwan after all of this nonsense. The United States rhetoric has been much stronger with regards to Taiwan.

 

Chinese are masters of rhetoric [like Italians].
They don't mind if the US President declares this or that. They note where US Navy units are ...

This said, you are absolutely right about China wanting good trade with the west.
The Ukrainian war is a problem for Beijing: the new silk way passes through Ukraine.
They cannot allow Russians to run a long term war there. Period.

 

Your problem is: 'All you ever heard about Russia' when it should be: "All you ever heard from Russia." Did you ever think that what you hear might be lies from those who have no qualms about lying?

Erdogan plays his hand well by buying from Russia and then selling drones to Ukraine, but it might have to do with Russia trying to keep the peace in Syria - not to mention getting Turkey out of Nato as well. As long as Erdogan is around, peace will prevail in that part of the world, regardless of his threats which are ongoing. But how long will Erdogan be around? It's the secular nationalists that are the problem.

I didn't know China was pressuring for the war to end which if so, probably has to do with the advance and growth of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization and how they're creating an alternative to the Petro dollar and the Western financial system. Up until now they feared and rightfully so, that if Russia wasn't successful then they would be the next victim..

This might also be why Russia is speeding up the process and incorporating the Southern and Eastern regions of Ukraine into the Federation. If they didn't, then all the Russians there would be either exterminated or forced to leave. I know that right now Russia is concentrating on Kharkov because of its proximity to the Russian border. After that it will be Odessa and the rest of the Black Sea coast. The whole map in that part of the world will change.

As for the 300 thousand men Russia is now recruiting, They will be used to guard the 1000 kilometers that will separate Ukraine from Russia's new territories. Everything now has to do with Nato and what they will do.

It could be that the situation with Taiwan is getting serious, and China might want to show a stronger front with Russia. There's also the problems in the Central Europeans states, which would affect China's Road and Belt initiative.

Anyway I'm just speculating.