Putin threatens West with nuclear weapons if troops come to Ukraine

I wasn't aware that anyone blocked Ukraine from making a deal with Russia. Off the top of my head, I remember the leader of Ukraine wasn't open to any deals that involved giving up parts of Ukraine and the Russians were demanding that.
In some situations, Trump may have a decent foreign policy, but he had his screwups too, imo, some major. Maybe Putin wouldn't have invaded Ukraine had Trump been re-elected, we'll never really know, but I can't see what difference Trump wouldn't have made. All Putin's stated reasoning would be the same, and I doubt anything Trump could have done except for allowing Russia to reclaim parts of Ukraine, and I don't think the Ukrainians were willing to do that.
I think it's easy for Americans to just say that Ukraine should just give up territory, but can you imagine us giving parts of Texas to Mexico? I don't blame the Ukrainians for sticking to their guns, and if no one helps them, Russia will eventually run them over.

 

I guess that's what you resort too when you create an inept thread.

Condor060 said: ↑
95% of his bombers are propellor driven


Tupolve TU-160

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Most of his nuclear arsenal is liquid fueled, which take 60-90 minutes to fuel.

According to US intelligence, Russia has about about 2,000 tactical nuclear weapons.




Condor060 said: ↑
We have birds looking down on Russia 24/7
If he so much as raised a nuke they would be taken out with sub launched tomahawks.

Tactical weapons are very easy to conceal or obfuscate as conventional weapons.

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If he was able to launch one, Russia would be a very quiet place for about 10,000 years.

As would the rest of the world, because a nuclear strike by Putin would likely result in an all out nuclear conflict.

 

Russia has held the high moral ground since before 2014. NATO and US have been lying for decades, and been encroaching for decades. That is their long term strategy.

For those Americans who have been paying attention, the Oliver Stone and Tucker Carlson interviews with Putin have shown him to be smarter and more dignified and more concerned with his own country than any man in the White House (and Congress). While the Deep State has blown up our own borders and sent hordes of illegals across, Putin has defended his country.

He is admirable in that regard, while US leaders are despicable idiots.

 

Yes, but the US is not isolationist, we care enough about other countries to
help them a lot, for example:

1964 - 1975 we helped Vietnam. We dropped more bombs on Vietnam that
were dropped in both theaters of WW2, killed over 3 million Vietnamese,
and dumped a lot of dioxin on various parts of the country.

We put their needs before our own.

And we've done that many times since!

 

Oh yeah, the murderer and political opponent jailing leader has the moral high ground.

 

Trumpublicans are extremely "isolationist", they refuse to help Ukraine or immigrants that have traveled on foot to come to America.

But! Read your own post. Does that really sound like we "helped" Vietnam?

 

During 2021 The Biden Administration and the Democrats in Congress
sent the first badly needed aid shipment to Ukraine.

It contained artillery shells, ammunition, and pay for the big Ukrainian
Army.

Since then the country has been at war and 500,000 Ukrainians have died.

Just think, without the weapons they wouldn't have their freedom.

 

“Feb 13, 2018
U.S. Strikes Killed Scores of Russia Fighters in Syria
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/...d-to-kill-scores-of-russian-fighters-in-syria”

But, less than a year later, Trump had acquiesced to Assad, who continued dropping barrel bombs on Aleppo without so much as a minor objection from Trump.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...mp-erdogan-us-withdrawal-latest-a9157821.html

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Trump administration announces closure of Washington PLO office
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018...on-announces-closure-of-washington-plo-office”

So? You claimed that Trump closed the Russian “consulate”. Don’t bother trying to deny it, you repeated it over and over again.

“So no Americans were killed in Afghanistan prior to Trumps cease fire agreement.
Do you even know how that sounds?”

Do you? Do you even think about what you’re saying?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_casualties_in_the_War_in_Afghanistan

 

How can someone in the US find out what's going on in the outside world.

And, no, Wikipedia isn't always a good source, some articles are written
by the propagandists and countries themselves.

 

So you were wrong about Trump killing Russian in Syria
NEXT

Yes, I did
Trump ordered the expulsion of 60 Russian officials from the United States and ordered the closure of the Russian consulate in Washington.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...ordered the expulsion,of Salisbury on March 4.

So you were wrong about Trump closing the Russian consulate
NEXT

Good thing that was a question to you and not my statement.
My statement was he brought home 30,000 soldiers and 3 military bases from Afghanistan without a shot fired or an American killed by the Taliban
NEXT

Yeah, I keep showing you getting everything wrong

 

BBC is a good source for cross reference and second opinion.

 

It does sound better.

 

It seems to me all those badasses agreeing with the OP can get a ticket to a trench in ukraine and we'll see just how badass they are. More like ****ing fools.

All you armchair warmongers....pull your head out of your asses for a brief second....and think about if you were Russia and NATO had been breaking promises for decades while encroaching on your borders with nuclear weapons....

Yeah, you get what you get when you've crossed the line.

Furthermore, Russia's nukes are BETTER than ours. They've got hypersonic missiles in subs that can hit DC within 30 seconds. 30 seconds from international waters.

And the peanut gallery is yapping about 60 minutes to fuel and "we got birds".

No "birds" can see those subs and no missile defense can stop the hypersonics.

We ain't got ****. We've already been sent packing by a bunch of goat herders and now you all want to talk nukes??

It's time for diplomacy. Check your rah rah ego or like I said above, go find a trench and see what a real war looks like.

 

That is the sad reality. Meanwhile the important "help" is being politicized... which indicates a serious dysfunctionality. Putin has big ambitions and he is not allowing much to stand in his way. He does not care how he gets his objectives met. He has no problem killing his opponents or slaughtering en mass in the country he wants to control as he attempts to rebuild the glory of Russia regaining lost territory.

 

No, you are doubling down on making a fool of yourself.

No, again. Trump did not close the “Russian Consolate” in Washington, because there is no Russian colsolate in Washhington.

And no, this is what you actually said. It a declaration, not a question.

“So no Americans were killed in Afghanistan prior to Trumps cease fire agreement.

 

Very good.
Now, do you know how to click on a link?
Trump ordered the closure of the Russian consulate in Washington. Seattle Washington.
Which you would have known if you actually clicked on the last 3 links I provided for you. lol
So right below my text is this thing call a link.
It will educate you on Trumps closing of the Russian consulate.
Any questions?
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/03/26/596966272/us-expels-dozens-of-russian-diplomats-closes-consulate-in-seattle#:~:text=President .

Sorry, nope, it was a response to your claim of the the shooting always starts at the end.
Which I have no clue where you came up with that idea

To which I responded

So far everything you have tried to dispute, you got wrong. lol

 

Or work around any defenses they have built in. Granted, I'm fairly sure they are getting skeleton versions of the hardware, without on the primary bells and whistles... But still getting them. Heck... that Taliban got $7 billion worth of it to sell on the black market!

 

Ukraine has had more. We just don't know the difference between allies and enemies.

 

That's always been a grey area with the US.

 

If you think about it , Trump wants to be like Putin. Right now Trump’s team asking SCOTUS that Trump is above the law, break whatever law he wants to break just like Putin. Very admirable.

 

Exactly, that is why total immunity is so important for him. IF he gets it. and then "wins" ..the nation is toast. It is hardly recognizable now.

 

And if the SC rules he doesn't have immunity while carrying out the roles of the Executive, then surely we'll see Obama prosecuted for murdering American citizens with drones.

 

I wouldn't count on it, on was clearly an OFFICIAL act OF the government. TRaitor tRump's acts were clearly PERSONAL acts AGAINST the government.

 

Set aside your TDS for a minute and explain to the audience how questioning the democratic process while President, which is allowed by law/the constitution, is a personal act?

The government gets its power from the people, not the other way around. The day when the government jails those who question the process of electing our representatives is the day our government needs to be destroyed and rebuilt.

 

I don't have tRaitor tRump Devotion Sickness; that's on you.

It's not.

Using the full force and power of the Office of President of The United States to overturn an election that he clearly lost in an attempt to retain power is clearly an act FOR the benefit of himself and an attempt to overthrow OUR Constitution.

I'm sure you're chomping at the bit for the latter like so many of the tRaitor tRump faithful. But, so far "the government" has only charged tRaitor tRump with fraud, which it's looking more and more like he may never be tried for.

As for me, I will fight to support and defend the Constitution of The United States ...

... to my dying breath as I was raised to do and pledged so many years ago.