Putin wants to rename city Volgograd to Stalingrad, whats next? Gulag reopening?

i have seen archives (which were stolen in 91) returning to Baltic states. i have seen a Russian Monument(American one i ´ve seen) in Kurapaty , i have seen a Russian Holodomor Monument in Kiev or in Kharkiv. i have seen Russian compensation/pensions to victims of Stalin´s terror...

About Bandera, do you understand that Kiselev´s Bandera and real one are 2 different persons?

 

i know it, i can read Art Allm very well , " you get Crimea , Donbas, Baltic states i will get western Poland and Königsberg and Memel, Czech Republic " you know usual story
and this is Art Allm´s men in Moscow , an "anti-fascist" according his own words but not this picture

 

he was not always The old Communist KGB man ...

 

its much more than just the buses...

 

So what?

There is freedom of expression in the RF, and some people love Stalin.

What is wrong about freedom of speech and freedom of expression?

 

I have never said that I am a Stalinist. You have attacked me personally, that is a violation of rule Nr. 4 of this forum.

If I called a Jew a Hitlerist, I would not get away with it.

Now I wonder if you will get away with calling me a Stalinist.

 

Only because you were ordered to think so. If tomorrow media magnate invests a few bucks into different thinking you would start to be communist and the most aggressive anti-fascist the world has known. But this attitude is very cheap. Everything that is for sale is cheap.

 

Taxcutter asks:
So what is 'Europe' gonna do about this neo-Stalinist? Right now, it looks like the answer is "Give in."

 

He doesn't see the difference. He was not told of it and believes it doesn't exist. He was told that everyone who doesn't agree with his viewpoint which he gladly shared with those who pay (not even him) are extremists. That's why his judgement is not very poetic.

Moderators have a tough task anyway. They are also in the war and try to make their choices like everyone else as if it is not. On the whole this forum is a decent cut of modern world political tendencies. And the guys really try.

 

just decide, and do something , Putler´s Russia is a joke compere to EU

 

for new Russia is on the bottom of all free press indexes not Germany , so stop you useless anti West - propaganda

 

I cannot say in this forum what I think about this user, because it would be considered to be a "personal attack" and I would get an infraction.

Look at our discussions, read my and his arguments, look whose posts had been removed, and you get the picture.

 

Can you prove your statement?

You have to quote me, and quote me correctly.

I do not care what you believe in, you have to prove your statement with facts.

No, I think that Stalin and his "willing executioners" (read the book by Yuri Slezkine) were criminals who committed crimes against the Russian people.

I have called Stalin a criminal many times, and you have consciously mischaracterized my statements, without even bothering to quote me to support your libel.

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Ne, Stalin was not a racist, he killed everyone.

 

Taxcutter says:
Just deciding is Europe's problem.

To stop Putin will require at least five years of changing priorities for Europe. The welfare state will have to be curtailed in order to build up their defenses. I just don't see that happening.

 

yes , i can prove it, do you understand meaning of the word indirectly ?

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just check put EU´s GDP + Turkish + Ukrainian ..., all what we need its WILL

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LOL, you are right, i rambler the stories about the Afro-Americans in Gulag who died from freezing in the very first day ...

 

good for you...

No,he same if you remember what I told-
For the western Ukraine the :icon_pee:Bandera the hero - for east enemy

 

what would happen if they wanted to plaster the image of Hitler on buses in Moscow?

 

only ´cos eastern part is watching Kislev´s urinals and know nothing about him

 

if Germany started worshipping Hitler like a saint, Russia would be screaming bloody murder.

 

+1!!!!!!

 

its a fact....

 

Uhhh! Aren't there pictures of Bandera, Hitler's side kick plastered all over the administration building in Kiev, not to mention everywhere else. Here's are a few excerpts from Wikipedia:

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"...On 22 January 2010, the outgoing President of Ukraine Viktor Yushchenko awarded Bandera the title of Hero of Ukraine. The award was condemned by European Parliament, Russian, Polish and Jewish organizations and was declared illegal by the following Ukrainian government and a court decision in April 2010. In January 2011, the award was officially annulled..."

"...In late 1942, Bandera's organization, the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists, was involved in a campaign of ethnic cleansing of Volhynia, and in early 1944, these campaigns began to include Eastern Galicia. It is estimated that nearly 70,000 Poles, mostly women and children along with unarmed men, were killed during the spring and summer campaign of 1943 in Volhynia by the OUN-Bandera which bears primary responsibility for the massacres..."

 

You totally missed the reasoning. It has nothing to do with "tourism". It has to do with Russians not wanting to...and being unable to... deal with the complexities of a modern world.

Putin wants to give the perception of returning to the era of Soviet "greatness".

 

Stalin killed MILLIONS of Ukrainians and other Soviets.

He has the record for being a murdering tyrant. Bandera is small potatoes.