Putin won the presidential elections in Russia

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  1. raymondo

    raymondo Banned

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    I love it when otherwise probably nice people find themselves paddling backwards and start name calling as the water level gets higher .
    A sure sign of collapse .
    I am glad you spotted the Penguins --- have you ever heard one lie?
    Three are mentioned in my Post .
    Mister Associated News penguin .
    Mister T.Picola from the OSSE penguin
    Mister T.Kox Head of the Council of Europe penguin .
    I await with interest one example of a report I have published which is unverifiable .
    I know how upsetting it is to lose every match 10--0 but at least you can tell your kids that you fought against the best .
     
  2. EvilAztec

    EvilAztec Banned

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    Presidential Elections in Russia

    Press Statement
    Victoria Nuland
    Department Spokesperson, Office of the Spokesperson
    Washington, DC
    March 5, 2012

    The United States congratulates the Russian people on the completion of the Presidential elections, and looks forward to working with the President-elect after the results are certified and he is sworn in.

    The United States endorses the preliminary report of the observer mission of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) and the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE), and welcomes the many other assessments of the Russian presidential election by Russian election monitors. We note the statement by the head of delegation for PACE that the election had a clear winner with an absolute majority. We also note, however, the OSCE’s concerns about the conditions under which the campaign was conducted, the partisan use of government resources, and procedural irregularities on election day, among other issues.

    We urge the Russian Government to conduct an independent, credible investigation of all reported electoral violations. As underscored in the OSCE report, we also note the new steps that the Central Election Commission took to increase transparency of the voting process since the parliamentary elections last December. We urge Russian authorities to build on these steps to ensure that the procedures for future elections will be more transparent.

    We are encouraged to see so many Russian citizens voting, monitoring voting in their local precincts, exercising their constitutional right to free assembly, and expressing their views peacefully about the political and electoral processes. The number of Russian election observers who monitored this vote is unprecedented and a sign that Russian society seeks to participate in the improvement of Russia’s democratic institutions. We also recognize the government’s efforts to reform the political system, including the reintroduction of direct elections for governors, the simplification of party registration procedures, and the reduction in the numbers of signatures needed to register presidential candidates.

    http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2012/03/185210.htm
     
  3. EvilAztec

    EvilAztec Banned

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    LOL
    You calm down, drink cold water, and breathe deeply.
    You Ray are oppositionist, tough and sharp .
     
  4. raymondo

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    I am humbled and I do love the Penguin idea .
    Penguins as Election Monitors and crowd controllers at Protest meetings
    All problems solved
     
  5. Potap

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    I do not understand, what theory do you want to prove me? What 24 countries? What attitude do they have to elections in Russia? This is our internal business to elect the president.
     
  6. GeneralZod

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    Congratulations Russia and Putin.

    Although not being Russian myself, I do appreciate Putins leadership style. He seems a intelligent strong leader for the continued growth and wealth for such a remarkable country.
     
  7. raymondo

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    An interesting old fashioned idea , which you perhaps need to re-examine to decide whether what was obvious and true " yesterday" , is just as valid today .
    I suggest to you that with the whole basis of war fare changing completely , the need to examine and approve your neighbours is crucial .
    And now the word " neighbours" covers any country that has missiles and cyber weapons that could affect you, whatever the distance .
    Whatever your old ideas , Potap , America thinks differently . And judging by the amount of attempted interference in America by your selves , your leaders share the same view .
    It is no good saying that this is unfair , wrong or even evil . It is the way the world runs now .
    Get used to it .
    Example : If my " neighbour" has the pipe lines for all of my energy requirements ( Oil , Gas , and soon Water) , I want that country to never be in a position to compromise me for even 5 minutes . If I don't conquer it , I want the Government in my pocket.
    Remind you of anyone?
    I am not passing judgement . Just outlining real politics
     
  8. raymondo

    raymondo Banned

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    You are ill but do not realise it . Lie down for a couple of days !!!!!!
    Guess you also loved Stalin and Hitler .
    And however much you love or dislike Putin , the one thing you cannot accuse him of is , being intelligent .
     
  9. GeneralZod

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    Not sure why dislike Putin so much, but he is intelligent and has a strong wit. A speech by Putin from Davros in 2009 shows this:

    In the last few months, virtually every speech on this subject started with criticism of the United States. But I will do nothing of the kind.

    I just want to remind you, that a year ago. American delegates speaking from this rostrum emphasised the US economy's fundermental stability and its cloudless prospects. Today, investment banks, the pride of Wall Street, have virtually ceased to exist. In just 12 months, they have posted losses execeeding the profits they made in the last 25 years. This example alone reflects the real situation better than any criticism.

    The time for enlightenment has come. We must calmly, and without gloating, assess the root causes of this situation.
     
  10. EvilAztec

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    Whenever ever sounded word "Putin" with Ray happens diarrhea, I mean Verbal diarrhea, but may be physical, too, who knows...
     
  11. GeneralZod

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    Ray loves russia,

    But his strong anti putin views. Which may be cured on this part of the forum.
     
  12. EvilAztec

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    I agree, but sometimes it happens that Ray is too much ...
     
  13. frozy

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    and it is our right to discuss it o_O though we might not know the 'right' picture but it's not your right to tell us whether should we involve or not if the topic is in EE Forum that counts 24 countries next to Russia.
     
  14. Potap

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    May-be you have right to elect for us the president?
     
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    am I? are you really so emotionally affected that you're seeing whole this discussion as foreigners electing your president?! putin is the international word so far, we have right to discuss that since Russian foreign policy effects us as well!
     
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    Hi it's nice to see your posting and i accept you opinion
     
  17. raymondo

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    That's exactly what he is saying and you would understand it if you had read my explanatory post to Potap -- second one down on the previous page .
    This idea of "Your "president is gone .
    Why do you think America has the global strategy it does ---- destabilisation by proxy is the latest development ? But it means having a Gov't in its control for whatever reasons .
    Why do you think the russian dwarf has fought so long and hard to buy Ukraine ?
    Why do you think Putrid detests Saakashvili?
    and so on
    If America wants to choose your President for you , they will . Your opinions count for nothing .
     
  18. frozy

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    Whenever it is relevant or irrelevant you interfere America into discussion and my humble conclusion is that you're obsessed:confuse:
     
  19. Potap

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    I do not see a problem if someone discusses this event. But I see a problem if someone speaks about legality of these elections and start to teach us. We do not discuss legality and the level of democratic character of elections in Bosnia or in the USA. This is not our business. I understand that someone do not like that Putin has 63 %. But this is our choice and all others should accept his fact. For example we do not like Saakashvily. But we suffer him on our southern borders as Georgians have elected him as their president.
     
  20. frozy

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    i think that you have wrong perception on 'teaching', i just said what was on my mind and point of 'teaching' is when you expect to kick someone's ass with loads of arguments and i didn't really felt like doing so, in other words, it is your emotional awareness rather than anything else.
    the point is also, that there are proves that elections were set and his attendance on public speech as well, but my point wasn't that russian population chooses wrongly, im just saying that im not sure if that's the whole picture and if there is something else behind that. and that ain't wrong.
     
  21. Ostap Bender

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    This is the choice of Kremlin Mafia, the Russian People is not allow to say anything against.

    The Russian Revolution is ongoing:

    http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=ru&to=en&a=http://www.dpni.org/

    Interesting where will hide all those who support Putin? No one western country will allow them to stay.
     

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