Question about climate change

Discussion in 'Environment & Conservation' started by Ronstar, Feb 27, 2019.

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    Too funny.
     
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    That's hilarious. You claim that global warming is the result of many factors and then when asked what percentage of the current warming is the result of human CO2 emissions you state that is the wrong question. Too funny.
     
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    Still wrong question. The vast majority of our warmth comes from the sun. Because you don’t know that AGW is about rate of change, the question is, what part of the CHANGE is due to increased co2.
     
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    Why then are electricity rates so high in Germany and Denmark and California ??
     
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    OK. What part of the CHANGE is due to increased co2 ??
     
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    Don’t try to sound anymore uninformed. It’s a .gov website.
     
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    Go back to the reference.....you don’t like the source. Choose NASA or any major research facility in the world.
     
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    Sure it is.
     
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    Why can you not provide the answer every time the question is asked ?? Do you know the answer ??
     
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    Research it. The infrastructure cost goes up the faster you convert. Once done...the price drops. You think coal is cheaper in the long run ?
     
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    The republicans ARE in charge. The Govt. Is transitioning regardless of what the orange idiot says.
     
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    You can’t read ? Why should I translate everything back into into pig Latin so deniers of AGW can understand it ?
     
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    Without getting into the specifics of your post.... i would like to ask you a question. I think it is clear that you are skeptical about the whole greenhouse controversy... correct? And particularly you seem skeptical that humans could impact the climate by adding greenhouse gasses to the atmosphere... correct?

    I would like to explore the specific source of your assertions

    Do you agree that gasses described as greenhouse gasses generally do impact the climate? For instance... lets say that we could magically vary the atmosphere either by adding a huge amount of green house gasses, or removing a huge amount of green house gasses..... would such an experiment change the climate? Or do you dispute the fundamental physics and chemistry that alleges that certain gasses do have a something called as green house properties?

    For instance... possibly you dispute that volcanic eruptions impact the climate?
     
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    You have nothing.
     
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    The organization is one of the moronic UN constructs.
     
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    Who is claiming that CO2 emissions do not result in global warming ???
     
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    I call this the "Google it" argument fallacy. It's great for people too lazy to present an argument so they relegate the work to the person with whom they are arguing to make the case for them and against themselves.
     
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    I actually have googled it. All I find are claims that all of our current warming is the result of human CO2 emissions. The reason in this case is that there are no university which states what their estimate of the percentage is.
     
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    Right because it's all based on junk science and faulty computer modeling. CO2 is one miniscual greenhouse gas and the models exaggerated the effects of adding more. They claim it has an increasing effect when it actually has a diminishing effect when more CO2 is added.
     
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    Exactly. The relationship in the calculation of the climate sensitivity is logarithmic meaning the same effect is produced from doubling the CO2 from 2 ppm to 4 ppm as you do from increasing the CO2 from 200 to 400 ppm. And of course the models all are based on the assumption that all the warming comes from increasing CO2 emissions.
     
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    I thought you were

    Who is claiming that CO2 emissions don’t produce some global warming ??? Based on natural history of the Holocene and generally the entire time the earth has existed the effect of human CO2 emissions cannot be a significant contributor to our current global warming.
    I am try to understand what is your assertion. Are you agreeing that co2 is a greenhouse gas and can therefore impact climate....but that the impact is negligible?

    What in your opinion is the clear cause of observed warming
     
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    It’s not CO2 to any significant degree.
     
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    If deniers of AGW are too lazy to do a little research, don’t expect to be taken seriously. I’m still amazed how much smarter about the climate you guys are then NASA , MIT, all the govts of the world, our military and Really, anyone else in the real field. Don’t you think it strange how they Agree with the Chinese hoax ? The real hoax is in the bathroom, just above the vanity, in the mirror.
     

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