Question : Does giving consent to one person imply consent to another?

OK, I get it:

In rape or incest the woman's CHOICE is taken away so the "innocent life" loses it's value ( for you).

If the sex is consensual, the "innocent life" keeps it's value ( for you).... (and the woman's CHOICE is taken away but you think here that's a good thing)

Sorry, I see no reason that the cause of the pregnancy should determine whether an "innocent life" should be taken or not.

 

and I get a lot of flack for my stance, but it is what it is. It's not the unborn loses value, it's that the woman maintains the power of choice in the rape/incest cases and she deserves a choice, whether it be sex, or termination...both I feel gives her more power and favors her over the unborn. I try to balance it and keep both on an equal playing field. Also the mental trauma on the woman in a forced pregnancy involving rape would most likely be much higher, just from the sheer circumstances surrounding her and she may regret the baby his/her whole life and might even kill it when it is born. As when she had choice the mental anguish would be much less and she can grow to love the baby that she chose the circumstances around the making of the baby that is born and is less likely to resent the baby.

 

Sorry, but your stance clearly states that the "innocent life" loses value to you if the woman is raped....don't you see how YOU are doing exactly what you don't want woman to be able to do??

 

Have free reign over life? Thats what i dont want

 

That seems to be exactly what you want,...free reign over women's lives ...

 

Not sure how it appears that I want free reign over women's lives

 

You want to control one of the most important decisions of their lives...you want to have free reign to tell them when they have to be pregnant and when they don't.

 

No I want sensible laws that protect life while still giving her choice

 

NO, you want to control women who have consensual sex...if you are for a law that takes away a any woman's right to have an abortion you want to control women and reign over their lives.

There's an excellent post here...try reading it....common sense is your friend.

 

Gee, SURPRISE ...no opinions on this excellent post from the anti-choicers......

 

yuo can keep saying that voer and over fox and it doesn't make it true

 

Neither do your responses make it false.

 

No what i want to do makes the claims false. I know my reasons behind what I believe and controlling women is not one of them, so fix can spout that all they want and you can back fox up all you want, still makes the claim false and a lie

 

Who, besides women, has abortions?

You must be happy with the present law that gives women CHOICE.....taking away choice is a form of control.

 

To quote another member;

 

Still waiting for a pro-lifer to explain how consent given to one person for an action can be implied consent to a separate person for a separate action?

or

How in all other cases of consent it is ongoing and can be removed at anytime for any reason, or no reason at all?

 

Nope still not the case

 

What is she guilty of?

 

legally nothing, however look at this
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/innocent--- unborn fits innocent, but the woman in 99% of cases does not

 

What is your source for that number?

 

There is no source, it's an educated guess. its probably actually 100%. Why we have lived. Look at the definitions and you tell me one person who has innocence above the age of 10

 

A woman who gets raped and impregnated is innocent, is she not?

 

was she really innocent prior to the rape? Most likely she had life experiences long before that took her innocence away.
My argument against abortion on demand and supporting rape/incest abortion has nothing to do with innocence, it has to do with choice and consent. She had choice in the sex and therefor consent to the risks involved. Rape and incest she had no choice and did therefore no consent to the risks. Yes it happens anyways, but in the case of pregnancy in particular I support allowing her the choice to terminate if she wishes.

 

Honestly, I didn't realize that you were talking about innocent over the course of a lifetime. I thought you were referring to innocence in regards to becoming pregnant.

Carry on.

 

As is quoted to me ... denial.

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does it really, then you don't consider someone who does something against another persons will as guilty of anything?