Quran Vs Bible

That I will grant you. Some Christians, most in fact, (Fundamentalists not included) seem to have evolved from their horrific past ways.

 

I imagine they would screw you until they made you love them.

As Mike Tyson said to a reporter at a pre fight press conference/brawl.

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What is horrific about present day fundamentalist Christians?

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God loves you.

I don't.

 

Well if Jesus actually cared about me he'd take time off from his busy schedule of creating "acts of god" like deadly tsunamis, killer floods, deadly tornadoes, etc., and simply show me jury-level of proof of his existence (he'd know what it would take to convince me, and being all-powerful he could of course produce said evidence), and I could avoid using my "tricks".
If YOU had that power would you do that, or would you take the risk that I might burn, burn, and burn some more in "hell", Pregnar? I know what I'd do if the situation were revered, Pregnar. We await your answer.

 

You walk on one side of road, okay.

You walk on other side of road, okay.

Walk in middle...

Squish like grape.

 

God also does NOT love me....UNLESS I love him back...that's not really how love ideally works, though, at least not in Modern Secular Humanism. I love you and Muslims and everybody else, even if you don't love me back. Jesus didn't understand that. I would not want you to burn in "hell" if you became, say a (a supposedly hell-bound) Buddhist, say. But Jesus would want you to burn, so I'm more moral and care more for you than Jesus does.

 

I was kind of just kidding about "what's he SUPPOSED to do" as a Muslim, since you are right that he doesn't have much ammunition to use in debates as a Muslim (unfortunately for him.)

 

You don't know what He is busy with or why he does or doesn't do as you might expect.

How many times as a child did your parent(s) do or not do a thing because they knew what they were doing, whereas your level of comprehension was too limited to possibly understand their rationale?

Vaccinations?

Why would Mom/Dad allow such a horrible thing to happen to you if they loved you?

Hmm?

 

Why is it that so many Christians seem to have no clue about the book they worship ? The OP is correct. Here is one example, let me know if you would like others cause I can go on and on.

Deuteronomy 13:

What part of "put to the sword all who live that town" is not crystal clear to you ?

Again more nonsense. This is New Covenant theory and the majority of Christianity (Catholics, Orthodox, and much of Protestantism) do not accept that doctrine.

What is more humorous is every time some religious right bigot wants to attack gay people he quotes from the OT.

Clearly you have no clue about the OT as per my quote above. The Israelites slaughtered whole towns killing pregnant women, Children and Babies in the name of God. Sometimes God had them kill everyone but the virgin women they could keep as sex slaves.

I would argue that there are many nations that treat more than half their population like cattle. The US is one of them LOL. As for the death penalty for leaving the faith I agree with you.

 

Jesus of course hates me (and all non-believers) so you are just following the religion that you were born into, so I don't really blame you.
Fortunately, I was able to leave that religion of institutionally-approved hatred of other people, to a much more loving belief system.

 

Jesus DIED for you, nutzo!

 

The toughest part of being on this forum is that we can never tell WHICH Abrahamic faith people are talking about when they list atrocities like this, as BOTH Islam and Christianity have very very similar atrocities approved by their shy magic invisible friend in the sky (yes, that's all he provably is, please don't complain again about me saying that, religious people.)

I can't tell if you mean ISIS or Jesus and Pals.
You mention sex slaves, and ISIS even has markets where they sell sex slaves, so I think you're talking about ISIS. But Jesus approved of slavery in the NT, so you might be talking about the Bible, I don't know. I wish those two belief systems had DIFFERENT teachings than each other so we could tell them apart.

 

But Darwin et al proved that evolution is true, so Adam/Eve and (therefore "original sin") clearly didn't exist, and Jesus believed in that lie, and Jesus dying for "original sin" was not even needed, so the Bible is a lie, so no, he did NOT die for me!

 

Your love is that of a child's simple concept of love.

If you ever progress from your current POV you may find truth in this observation.

Jesus said that is a good thing, to have the faith of a child.

 

American and other Allied soldiers died for me in WWII.
In the American war of independence people died for me.
In WWI brave soldiers died for me.
In the US Civil War people died for my freedom.
BUT NO, JESUS DID NOT DIE FOR ME. If his love is highly conditional then he did not die for me.

 

In the face of any and all scientific methods or evidence, I will trust in the Lord's providence and His word.

Though I know it not.

That is faith.

If I am wrong, I have lost nothing.

if I am right I gain eternal life.

Hedge your bet, boyo.

 

Children have faith in the Tooth Fairy, and will believe most anything they are told, is that what he meant by the faith of a child?

 

First off, I am not a Christian, haven't been on in over 15 years. Secondly the OP is full of (*)(*)(*)(*). Google the verses he posted and claimed called for the death penalty. Very few of them actually do. The ones I googled called for banishment or ostracizing people, while tough is not nearly on the same level as execution.

Google the verses about circumcision, annointed oil, oh hell just pick pretty much any verse and compare it to the murder verse and you clearly see that they say nothing about the death penalty. THE OP IS FULL OF (*)(*)(*)(*)!

The verse you are quoting is God being a dick in the OLD TESTAMENT which does not apply to CHRISTIANS. Once again.....New Testament Laws trump OT laws. This fact has been posted numerous times by tons of people all over the forums at all different times.

Lets take a look at the Jews who are still under the OT laws. Are the Jews throwing gays off of buildings? Are they treating their women like cattle? Its ONLY Muslims who are acting like this on this large of a scale. The only Christians killing gays are in the Sudan and they are the exception. Every single Muslim country imprisons or outright executes gays and EVERY SINGLE Muslim country treats their women as preg o' matics.

 

Every time you pray to the wrong god you just tick the real one off more and more and more each time.
Zeus will be kind to me, but not to you.

 

I leave you that you may snark at someone else.

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You may be right.

You may be trying to make a point.

I don't care.

 

You might want to brush up on the Bible a bit, since:
New Living Translation
"Don't misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose." - Matthew 5:17

Can we both agree that Jesus is being a little beyotch by not simply snapping his fingers and not making an appearance and not clearing most of this stuff up for us, so we don't look like idiots trying to figure out just what the HELL he was (apparently) really trying to say? Any moral person would do that if they had that ability, for sure.

 

If Christians were moral, then the second they heard about that they'd work hard to try to change their Bible so that that atrocity would not happen in the future, or at least to mitigate the damage their book will cause to innocent people. They need higher moral standards, to the level of Modern Secular Humanism.

 

Dude, did you not read my comment about New Covenant theory. This is not what the majority of Christianity believes and it really makes no difference.
The God of the Israelites had them do some really nasty things.

That God, according to every major Christian denomination, is Jesus.

So what happened here ? Did God get a conscience in the span of roughly 1000 years ? Did God make a mistake the first time?

The Jews are a very smart group of people who no longer abide by OT law. Got it.

This has little to do with what the Israelites did in OT times which is the topic.