Quran Vs Bible

My parents were religious nut-cases so they did NOT vaccinate me, despite what the science says. More reasons to leave religion.

 

Oops, looks like they are caught in a lie yet again, since god does NOT change his mind according to the Bible:
Question: "Does God change His mind?"
Answer: Malachi 3:6 declares, “I the LORD do not change. So you, O descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed.” Similarly, James 1:17 tells us, “Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows.” The meaning of Numbers 23:19 is clear: “God is not a man, that He should lie, nor a son of man, that He should change His mind. Does He speak and then not act? Does He promise and not fulfill?” No, God does not change His mind. These verses assert that God is unchanging and unchangeable.

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/God-change-mind.html#ixzz3SFB0wSnO

 

You didn't let FEAR overtake your logic, science, reason, critical thinking, and common sense. You were probably too moral to accept a scheme where decent, hard-working, moral people (Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims, etc.) get tortured worse than Hitler ever dreamed of torturing his worst Jewish enemy for just making an honest mistake.
I admire your courage and intellect.

 

Christians do not follow the OT laws........got it? When is the last time a church excommunicated someone for eating the wrong food? It doesn't happen anymore. The ONLY religion that is pervasively violent today is Islam. You can't claim that Jews are smart enought to ignore the OT laws and then claim at the same time that Christians follow the OT law. They don't. Which one is it? Are Christians following the OT laws concering what to eat and wear and the separation of men and women during worship service or not. I have never seen a church that had women sitting in back during service.

Jesus and God are NOT the same thing. Look up the Holy Trinity and stop commenting on something you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

I also, forgot this point ealier, many of those laws were EXPLICITLY for Jews and only for Jews and not for Gentiles.

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When it started to happen the churches that were operating over there changed their message and called for a stop in the violence. Unfortunately mistreatment of gays is simply endemic to Africa as a whole, its part of their culture sadly.

 

The problem is that is not the interpretation of ANY church or denomination I am aware of. I went to a super conservative church when I was a kid and they taught us that we no longer had to follow OT laws becaue Jesus set up new laws. The verse you are referring to is concerning the 10 Commandments (laws of Moses) which are distinct and separate from laws that were mostly meant for Jews in the first place. Many laws were in fact not directed at Gentiles to begin with.

 

Uh......whut?

 

So you have nothing.

 

The question was not whether or not Christians follow OT laws. You were claiming that all Christians were not obliged to follow OT laws because of some non existent New Covenant which is not believed by most of Christianity.

I was just correcting your false claim.

Do not blame me for your ignorance in relation to Trinity Doctrine which states that Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are one in the same.

To be specific and technical. This doctrine became official during the council of Nicene when Constantine declared that Jesus was homoousios (one substance) with the Father.

I know you do not know what this meant every time you, in past days when you were a Christian, recited the Nicene Creed as every Christian denomination does almost every Sunday..... But, I do.

To the Greeks there were only two types of substances, that which God was made of, and that which everything else is made of -dirt, trees, humans and so on.

The claim that Jesus was "one substance"/ "homoousios" means that Jesus is one in the same with God. Full Stop.

Think of it like a monster with three heads if you want or a God comprised of numerous Aeons (similar to the Gnostic ideas) One God with various emanations from the single Godhead.

It does not matter. Jesus God and the Holy Spirit are one unified inseparable entity according to Christian Doctrine. All for one and one for all.

When God was doing those nasty things in the OT Jesus was right there doing the same as was the good ol Holy Spirit.

 

That's the most ridiculous comparison I've ever heard. What could you ridiculous god be inoculating us against by exposing us to death and destruction on a massive scale? Plagues? Famine? What about children getting raped or murdered? Disabled people? What possible purpose could any of this serve?

If I'm wrong and your god turns out to be real I want a few words with him, starting with "What the (*)(*)(*)(*) were you thinking?"

 

As I mentioned in a later post the laws that the OP posted are in fact for Jews, not gentiles. Gentiles were not required to follow the strict dietary or circumcision or any of that other nonsense. 99% of Christians are gentiles. Christians ARE NOT beholden to the OT laws. Outside of the 10 commandments most of the rest of the laws were about the Covenant between God and his people.

Jesus asked his father to forgive people, Jesus prayed to God for strength during his desert thingy with Satan. Jesus was a separate entity in and of himself when he was down here, at least from what every denomination I know of teaches.

God sent the Holy Spirit to kill the first born in Egypt, it doesn't say God killed the first born it says God sent the Holy Spirit to do the killing. The Trinity is God but its also separate entities in and of itself. Ironically the dualist existence completely contradicts the "one God" claim by Christianity but I never did get a straight answer from my pastors on that one.

 

True, and of course taking isolated quotes out of their context and the people and times they refer to is also an error, but that would require effort and some sort of actual scholarship. For instance 'witchcraft' among the pagan tribes in the times of Exodus, Leviticius, and the earlier books used such wonderful rites as child sacrifices and poisonings, some truly nasty and vile (*)(*)(*)(*), as did sacrifices to 'idols' mentioned in the texts. Even the Romans abhored human sacrifices, a major reason they despised the 'Gauls' as degenerate savages. 'Witches' were in fact murderers and other nasty things, so yes, a death penalty wasn't out of line even by modern standards.

 

Too bad "Jesus" isn't actually real or all-knowing or he'd have cleared up those contradictions that so baffle millions of people over the years - AND doing that would give Christianity more credibility, thereby keeping more people from allegedly burning in Jesus' after-life torture chambers (see Revelation)....but Jesus isn't into compassion, so he doesn't do that....or maybe, like Bigfoot, he's too shy to show himself.....

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Ok, god got it wrong, thanks for clearing that up.

 

To quote Sonny & Cher, "I got you, babe."

 

God didn't even have the guts to kill a bunch of innocent children by himself, he had to send his own personal Joe Pesci to do his dirty work.

 

One of the reasons that I left the religion was because of nonsense like that. I actually believe in a higher power I just refuse to believe that "God" cares what I eat or who I sleep with or if I work on Sunday or Saturday or Friday. The creator of the universe wouldn't give two (*)(*)(*)(*)s if someone eats bacon....he just wouldn't care.

 

Blacks have been in North America for 394 years; will they become free in another six years?

 

Don't forget the First Commandment from Exodus 34:12-16 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus 34:12-16&version=TLB;CEV;MEV;MSG;NLT. The Ten Commandments are still in effect.

 

When Jesus returns he will kill all life and destroy the world. He's not a nice guy.

 

Is Jesus still dead?

 

Hell....the bible said he got up and went about his business. Who would question such a monument to truth as the bible:

A ghost floating on a cloud meeting his audience to escort them on gossamer wings through pearly gates to an exclusive gated community.

The 2/3 who are sinners burning eternally in a lake of fire and brimstone.

A flood covered the earth to a depth of five miles and evaporated within a year.

Big fish puking up live men.

Seas separating for the good guys and drowning the bad guys chasing them.

Compound walls falling at the sound of a trumpet.

A human being turned into a pillar of salt in her tracks.

Men living through a 1200 degree furnace.

The earth standing still.

Ten commandments presented to one man by god in the form of a burning bush.

A man walking on water.

A man/god on earth feeding five thousand plus women and children who also ate with two fish and five loaves then gathering 12 baskets of leftovers.

Water turned into fine wine.

Lepers healed by touching them.

Selectively raising dead men.

Virgin birth.

Resurrection.

The trilogy....which only a fool could possibly believe.

I don't believe in ghosts.....holy or otherwise.

 

Not necessary...Jesus will meet us on a cloud and escort us to the pearly gated community in the sky and about that time a whole flock of bird dogs will fly overhead.