Racism at its worst!

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by yes/no, Apr 1, 2012.

  1. Never Left

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    Hate speech is protected speech. Hate crime does not exist, or at least, should not exist.
     
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    OK, I'll take that as a yes. :/
     
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    Take that as a no. Hate crime is a fabrication rooted in political correctness. It is an assessment of thought and speech, and not of action, which is the only case law can addess.
     
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    Wait, so now you are indeed saying that a hate crime is not worse than a hate speech???
    Or are you meaning to imply that hate crimes do not exist? Well there has already been evidence posted in this thread that disproves that notion.

    A hate crime is simply nothing more or less than a crime motivated by hateful prejudice. And such crimes are not simply a figment of our imaginations.
    http://definitions.uslegal.com/h/hate-crime/

    Do you disagree with that definition of a hate crime? Do you define the term hate crime in some other fashion?

    -Meta
     
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    I reposted what I said so that you can retract your statement: it's apparent that your reading comprehension is that of an elementary schooler. Do you need me to explain to you why what I wrote was NOT what you claimed I wrote?
     
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    moving to Race relations
     
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    Never met a man who has, of any color.​
     
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    I think his point may be a hate crime is a crime and hate speech is speech. Crimes tend to be worse than speech, and whether you hate someone while speaking or committing a crime is rather irrelevant to whether you disapprove of crime or support free speech.​
     
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    Sorry, no.
    I suspect you are not familiar with what a hate crime is, it is not irrelevant at all whether hate of a group characteristic is involved or not - the hate crime wouldn't have happened without it.
    And, btw, the bar is quite high to prove that premeditation based on hatred of a group was there. It's always advisable to inform oneself about the actual legislation before spouting off (this is not directed at you, I realise you're interpreting someone else's comment)
     
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    Wrong on all counts.
    Do a quick websearch and try again. lol
     
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    You are correct in citing cultural differences however I strongly disagree with labeling folks by skin color for the simple reason that humans' skin color varies widely and is not always indicative of actual cultural differences.

    When it comes to 'culture' here in America, we should be all just one culture and that is American. I understand the horrendous legacy of slavery however, this country has shed the blood of its own in a civil war over just that issue some 150 years ago. Since that time, racism and discrimination have taken their toll on the majority of Americans who are 'color blind' when it comes to skin color. Most of US get along quite well regardless of our skin color or cultural origins BECAUSE we consider ourselves AMERICANS.

    ETHNIC differences have always been seen as an enrichment to our country BECAUSE folks from disparate areas of the world retain their ethnicity here in America WITHOUT trying to ultimately create their own, isolated 'state-nation' within its borders which can only divide a country.
     
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    Yeah, how does that change the fact that Obama ins the dumbest more pathetic President we have ever had?
     
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    An you think the KKK has any effect on anything and is more than maybe 2 or 3 thousand people across the entire country?

    You know I bet the entire membership of the New Black Panthers is going to vote for Obama.

    So what does that have to do with Obama appealing to a group of people BECAUSE of their race and what if Romney were to establish a Whites for Obama website and tell whites how they should vote for him because he better represents white issues.
     
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    Obama is a very smart guy. He went from nothing to being the most powerful man in the world.
     
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    He was annointed, he didn't earn it or acquire it because of any intelligence and he remains pathetic.
     
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    A group that will not be formed by our racist President is "Americans for Obama."
     

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