Racism is NOT a Thing of The Past

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  1. Cigar

    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    White teens accused of hate crimes after 'putting noose around black classmate's neck

    Far too often in a time were 1960s style hatred is considered a thing of the past … each and every year we see documented signs of the contrary. These aren’t 50 or 60 year old Racist; but rather young home grown, home schooled, Good-Old Traditional tactics Racist.

    No it is not a thing of the past as anyone who is a victim of Racism can tell you and you won’t have to search long to find it on Internet Forums.

    Documented “here” is yet another sign of the times ---- Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1kak9uDHC

    As you can clearly see ... we've still have a long way to go in teaching our children.
     
  2. DaveInFL

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    Of course racism is still around, it will always be around as long as the race industry exists. If there were no racists, then all those African American Studies departments would have to close, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and company would be out of a job, black and liberal politicians wouldn't be able to call opponents racists in order to change the subject. Racism and "fairness" and "equality" are the founding tool of the progressive/democrat/socialist/communist agenda, without it they lose their big stick to beat fools into believing their lies.
     
  3. Cigar

    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Any thoughts on the post or are you just going to ramble on.

    BTW; Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton ... ?

    ***MOD EDIT:pERSONAL ATTACK***
     
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    Considering the link doesn't work......

    This sounds like the usual arguement, one bad event which might be racism or might be kids acting like idiots (broken link, couldn't check it) but obviously could be construed as racism being expanded out of proportion to claim that society is full of racists. Heard it all before.

    Maybe its true, maybe not. I've been told that I'm a racist because I'm white, and even if I'm not overtly racist I'm still a racist becuase racism is inherent in the system. Its all BS.

    Many years ago I grew up in a mixed neighborhood, all military families. No racists even though it was the 1960's. When your father's life depends upon your neighbors father, skin color doesn't seem all that important. In the 1980's as the race industry picked up steam, facts didn't seem to matter. All white people were racist, black people could not be racist, blah blah blah. Now when I hear stuff like this OP, it rubs me the wrong way. I just assume its more ignorant BS.
     
  5. Libhater

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    Well of course you're right that this is more ignorant BS from the OP. The OP also doesn't realize that mere hate of another race isn't a description of a racist. I just love teaching ignoramuses the definition of a racist. A racist is one who believes his race is superior to that of another race. But just like you I was unable to open his post, but I'm willing to bet that those involved in the story didn't say anything about being superior to those blacks. :ignore:
     
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    Well that is the default.

    Btw I am white.

    I think you have to prove otherwise, that's the whole point.
     
  8. Cigar

    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sorry about the Link, but it's not my link in the first place.

    So what you're saying is, people shouldn't paint with a broad brush ... if that's what you're saying ... the I agree with you.
     
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    Why haven't I seen you, Cigar, posting about the outrage of black teens attacking a white victim?
     
  10. Uncle Meat

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    Actually, it is one description.

    You might want to buy a new dictionary.

    While your definition is indeed correct, it can also be:

    racism: "hatred or intolerance of another race or other races."

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism
     
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    Hatred isn't of itself an accurate description of a racist. The politically correct police have already gone so far as to list hate crimes as a higher punishable degree then say a similar crime where race isn't involved. My goodness, who would have ever seen that coming from our PC infested society? I hate the fact that al sharpless and jessie (keep hope dead) jackhole use a race baiting tactic to make political points on a less than intelligent TV viewing populace. But my hatred of their policies and of their overall demeanors in the public spotlight does in no way make me a racist.
     
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    Yes, it is actually.

    Words quite often have more than one meaning.

    racism: "hatred or intolerance of another race or other races."

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism?s=t
     
  13. Cigar

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    Because I'm all grown-up now.
     
  14. Cigar

    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OMG ... please didn't lower yourself to giving these morons dictionary definitions. They don't what to beleive therefore it isn't true. It's because they either beleive it never happen or, like the title ... a thing of the past.
     
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    Why do you write something like this knowing full well that racism is not a thing of the past? It's no secret, racism will never go away, especially when "fairness" and "tolerance" are stuffed down peoples' throats.

    My question to you is, will you admit that racism goes in ALL directions?
     
  16. Cigar

    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wow … I guess it’s really telling about the society we now live in, if “Fairness” and “Tolerance” to your fellow American need to be “stuffed down people’s throats”. Remember; it’s “these people” who are fighting and dying in Wars for “Fairness” and “Tolerance”.

    “Fairness” and “Tolerance” is a simple way to just say “Thank You”.

    Yes Racism goes in all directions … but some will have to go to the left 4 Centuries to get to the center of equality. Give me a call when you get there.
     
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    Hey, I call it like it is, you may not like it. If you stuff these things down people's throats they are going to be resentful and in the long haul it will not turn out the way people would hope, it will just be worse.

    You think the men and women who took the FDNY test and did well are happy that they will not be hired because the federal government stepped in and said that the testing was somehow discriminatory towards blacks and hispanics? These people waited their time and took the test and now will not be given any chance to get on the job.

    "In 2007 the Department of Justice joined the Vulcan Society, an organization of black firefighters, in a lawsuit against the city, over complaints that the FDNY had used racially biased testing in its hiring, as well as other illegally and intentionally discriminatory practices. Then in 2009 and 2010 a judge issued rulings that found the city had discriminated against black and Hispanic applicants; in August, a judge began considering remedies, including a court appointed master to oversee the department.

    "What we've done through the judge and through other means is give the recruiting department the resources that it needs," said Capt. Paul Washington of Engine 234 in Brooklyn, a past president of the Vulcan Society. "We're forcing them to take steps in the right direction. Let it be clear, they are being forced to take those steps. The city has actively fought us every step of the way."

    The department recently developed a new test, which will be administered for the first time in January. The new test is expected to cost the city more than $3.3 million to develop and administer, officials have said in recent reports.

    Meanwhile, the FDNY has increased their minority recruiting efforts, both by order of the courts and under pressure from the Vulcan Society.

    Recruiters have set up tables at black churches, high schools and shopping malls. They have taken to the airwaves of black radio stations like Hot 97 and Kiss FM, and set up a Facebook page to assist in corralling applicants."


    The department has developed a "new test" AKA they dumbed the test down because not enough blacks and hispanics could pass the other test. If the SAME TEST WAS GIVEN TO EVERYONE, HOW CAN IT BE DISCRIMINATORY?!

    So now, not only has this cost the city over 3 million dollars, the recruits will be dumber - just what the city needs! And you wonder why people are angry?
     
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    Even though I demonstrated that he was wrong, he still insisted on trying to push his ridiculous argument.

    <<< MODERATOR EDIT: OFF TOPIC/INSULT >>>
     
  19. Cigar

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    I agree … that’s NOT Fair … it wasn’t fair decades ago and is not fair now … but sometimes we have to lay in the bed that someone else made for us. Personally, I don’t think we’ll ever make up for what happened in the past, but the chickens have come home to roost and piper has to be paid. Our legacy is what it is, and the consequences of racial discrimination, segregation and unequal treatment as made its mark on this country for generations.

    Just think about … its 2012 and 1960 is barely a generation ago. That mean, there are plenty of people who either benefitted or suffered.
     
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    So you're outraged when a black person is the victim of whites, but not the other way around? <<< MODERATOR EDIT: INSULT >>>
     
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    400 years?
     
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    Well, I respect you for admitting that is isn't fair. Frankly, I thought you would have a snarky comeback with some excuse attached. Cheers.

    That said, you have to realize that these people taking the tests are my age, in their early to mid twenties. They had nothing to do with the civil rights era... NOTHING. How is it helping anything when we create this generation that is becoming extremely resentful for being punished for past injustices that they had no part in? You can't punish the son for the sins of the father.

    I am telling you right now that reverse discrimination is a huge problem in this country, and if things like this continue to occur, it is only going to get worse and will thicken the racial divide in this country with people becoming more extreme.
     
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    Cigar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ask Newt, he's your Historian. :-D
     
  25. Cigar

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    You know ... neither did I or a lot of other Black People in this country ... but is doesn't stop people on this Forum and The GOP Candidates to paint that same broad brush ...

    Would you have respect for a politician who singled out an entire race of people to get Votes?

    Like I said before ... it's isn't fair but the chickens have come home to roost.


    You can't play a Race Card unless the Deck is stacked with Racist Cards.
     

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