Raped and Murdered walking home...

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  1. Gwendoline

    Gwendoline Well-Known Member

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    Rest in peace, Jill. :rose:


    This rape and murder haunted me. Such a precious life lost in such a vicious brutal way.


    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-27/man-charged-with-rape-murder-of-jill-meagher/4284826

    http://www.smh.com.au/national/face-of-jill-meaghers-alleged-killer-revealed-20121011-27g89.html
     
  2. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    The scumbag who killed her will not last long in jail, that I am sure of.

    I do think that the media attention given to her was excessive, though. Many other women are raped and killed but they don't make front page news like Jill did.
     
  3. Gwendoline

    Gwendoline Well-Known Member

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    I think the media attention is irrelevant. They were raped and killed. The front page or the back page will not bring their precious lives back into the world.
     
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    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    I agree with the last statement, but not the first. If we put her on the front page for days, then we should do the same for others.

    Remember the Indian woman who wanted to leave her husband but he ignored the AVO? He raped and tortured his wife, then he ignored the judge and raped her again before beating her and setting her on fire. That little Indian woman didn't make the front page. She wasn't the first news story on the TV news, all she got was a small article on page 4. There wasn't 30,000 people marching through the streets of Melbourne to call for an end to domestic violence of to demand greater protection for women who seek to leave their violent husbands.

    Why not? What made Jill so much more special, that people grieved for her more?

    I can't help but think the obvious. Jill was a pretty, white woman. The other woman was an Indian.
     
  5. Gwendoline

    Gwendoline Well-Known Member

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    Point taken, in part. Jill worked at the ABC which in some part, I'm sure ensured the extensive coverage / investigation.

    One of the most saddest cases stays with me... it was a teenage girl found stuffed behind an abandoned refrigerator in a laneway in Kings Cross. She was 17. Raped and murdered. It appeared on about page 20 of the national newspaper and it was about 1-2 paragraphs long. It was right before the 12 page sports liftout started...
     
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    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    I wish these things would make front page more often. We need to know about these senseless acts of violence more than we need to know about an AFL star being suspended for whatever reason. We need to show the public what is really going on, and work out ways to protect ourselves, and I think getting rid of those stupid AVO's would be a start - they are not worth the paper they are written on.
     
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    ok, devil's advocate here ....


    what point is this being posted on the forum.... there is no debate that it was a bad thing happened.... yes, we know rape and murder happens.

    The guy got arrested right? so what's the issue?
     
  8. Gwendoline

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    This was a real case, unlike you that pretends to be date-raped then claims you weren't, then claims you were, then claims you weren't.

    Rape is tragic, yet you trivialise it with your drunken-escapade-stories. Fabricated ones at that.

    If you have nothing to say on the thread other than to whine, well, you can kindly (*)(*)(*)(*) off.
     
  9. Gwendoline

    Gwendoline Well-Known Member

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    I think AVO's are better than doing nothing about a potentially dangerous situation to one's self. AVO's carry strong penalties for breaches, too. But they do not deter those hell-bent on harming someone. There was a case of a woman not so long ago who was stalked and killed outside of court by the man with an AVO on him.

    I had a friend who had a high court judge for a father. He had her down on the ground trying to strangle her... A high court judge, for (*)(*)(*)(*)s sake...

    Later, she had the misfortune to marry a man that physically abused her. After years of taking it, one day, she snapped... The husband went at her to bash her, but suddenly this time, she instinctively picked up a chair, held it over her head in a threatening way... and then she screamed, "(*)(*)(*)(*)ing touch me, I'll (*)(*)(*)(*)ing kill you!" She screamed like a lion.

    The husband backed off. And she left him that very day. She'd taken her power back. The power he'd tried to squash in her.


     
  10. JavisBeason

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    ok, it was a real rape... and tragically ended for this young lady.... but is the purpose to make people aware that rape/murders still happen? Because it's not a surprise anymore....

    There is nothing to really debate about it as even a mysogonist such as myself won't see anything good from this story..... ie - everyone agrees

    have they caught the killer yet?
     
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    A suspect is in custody, whether or not he is the killer according to law will be ascertained during the trial.

    On the other issues. It wasn't that long ago that domestic violence (as opposed to the apparent stranger murders being referred to) was something that was either officially ignored or trivialised. I was a cop for forty years in my state and I can tell you in 1970 the practice was to talk to the offender and persuade him/her not to do it again and drop a casual threat "if we have to come back here tonight, you're coming away with us". That casual threat was all very well but what if the second visit by police was to secure a murder scene? Any cop would have the same tales to tell. Nowadays and fortunately for some years, dv has been treated not just as a marital squabble but a crime. And just before I get a hammering, yes, I arrested dv perpetrators many times when the official and unofficial tide turned among the police.

    It's right that the issues are discussed here and in any other place where opinions can be shared.
     

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