Red States Considering Bill Like Florida's Parental Rights Law

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    Considering taking a page out of Florida's playbook, red state lawmakers across the country are on the cusp of new legislation that would prohibit classroom discussion of sexual orientation or gender identity with young students, The Hill reports.

    Modeled after Florida's new Parental Rights in Education Act, which was signed into law last month by Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, lawmakers in Ohio and Louisiana have filed bills that ban schools from using curriculum that includes sexual orientation and gender identity topics.

    According to The Hill, Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, a Republican, said the Lone Star State's version of the bill would be a top priority in the next legislative session.…







    read more: https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/parental-rights-law-florida-lgbtq-legislation/2022/04/05/id/1064452/







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    was hoping that this would happen. Now it is. Red states and likely local counties that can are emulating the Florida example.
     
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    This is what must happen. The woke left cancel culture has been waging war upon traditional values, our culture, and our history. Now they are taking it to our innocent kids. It’s great that the conservative and evangelical Christian groups and leaders are finally fighting back. It’s about time!
     
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    Appeal to tradition is a fallacy. Republicans seem to be shifting further towards theocracy and censorship, all the while hypocritically alluding to "cancel culture". It is insane that republicans think kids need to be kept ignorant of the world around them because if offends christian sensibilities, reminds me of their even-more-dangerous abstinence only education. Learning about people who are different doesn't make you one of them, it helps you accept them and learn respect for differences.
     
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    We need an emoji of spiking a football.
     
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    Dude, they're 5 year olds. They have another 15 years to be indoctrinated by liberal propaganda. Why is it so important that kindergarten kids learn about something they won't understand? Today liberal schools can't get kids to learn how to read and write, but they want to pump them full of gay and CRT crap.
     
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    There is nothing wrong with abstinence education for jr high through high school. Kids can wait until 4th grade to begin age appropriate learning about sexual and related identity differences.
     
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    That is what the cultural and secular woke left have been trying to do in our faces for too long.
     
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    They want to try to turn kids against their parents and what their parents teach them at home or through their church at the earliest possible age.
     
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    Extreme RW Radical Legislatures are Free To PASS Anything that they want.
    Then, if it is signed by the Governor (or if a Veto is Over-ridden) it becomes a State Law.
    At that point, the only question becomes:
    Whether or not it is Constitutional?
    As long as the Law is Ruled "Constitutional"--There isn't much that can be done...
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    So you promote teaching 5 year olds gay and trans sexuality because if we don't its censorship.
    Well alrighty then
    Should we include explanations about anal sex as well? Wouldn't want to be called out for hypocrisy now, would we.
     
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    5 year olds? I don't see anything about 5-year olds in particular, just that it applies to k-12 in one of the laws considered, which is 5-18 years old. Though it's not likely to come up for the 5 year olds. Must be Fox's propaganda method for sensationalizing it by pretending this is a topic for 5-year-olds?

    Nothing wrong with encouraging abstinence, but rather abstinence-only education. When you do not teach other aspects of sex ed because of it, you put teens at a disadvantage for higher-risk behavior because they don't know the tools to protect themselves. Some teens will have sex regardless of whether you tell them to be abstinent. It is better if they know about the consequences and how to try to avoid them if they choose to have sex, e.g. advantages of different kinds of birth control like condoms being better for STDs, etc. After hearing the risks they're often better about being safe than full adults, more reliably using condoms and even using two methods to get both STD protection and more reliable birth control.
     
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    First, what you THINK is happening....isn't. This is a total fantasy issue and you're falling for it. Second, if kids can't learn how to read and write in school, why would you worry about something as complex as this. This whole outlook is lunacy.
    "pump them full of gay and CRT crap" yet you probably had no trouble at all about taking them to church. Talk about indoctrination!!
     
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    Do teachers preach about God and Jesus to 5 years olds in class?
     
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    Well, it's not being taught now so that's a problem that's solved already.
    At what age did you teach your kids about anal sex?
     
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    Probably as much as they do about gays and CRT.
    Your question has nothing to do with what I posted.
     
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    A signed confession?
     
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    Please explain why a 5 year old should know the personal musings about gay sex from a teacher WITHOUT the parents knowing? Read the fracking bill. It’s about parents knowing what’s going on. What motivation do you have to hide what teachers are saying to children, unless it’s malicious? I NEVER knew my teachers first names, much less if they were married, had kids or their political views. There really was no personal life shared that I can remember. Child of the 80s. Teachers today are CRAZY revealing that **** to their students. NO place in the classroom teachers getting personal or political.
     
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    Good we need more Protect Our Children bills.
     
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    Appeal to common sense and decency and respect for the family and children, wow what a fallacy. Democrats and the left have shifted to wanting to sexualize children and destroy the family. I don't think they are winning their battle to do so.
     
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    I totally agree with that. I’d like to see it near universal outside of our bicoastal urban areas.
     
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    K-3. Perhaps you should watch some of Fox so you have the facts and not the total misrepresentations on the MSM or out the mouths of Democrats.
     
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    That's ridiculous.

    The government, public schools, etc... have no business in a child's sexuality at virtually any age, except perhaps in biology. Parents got this... stay the **** away from our children.

    The attempt by the left to normalize transgenders to our children is the goal, the next step... pedophilia... well some of the Lefties are already going there.
     
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    No it isn't.
    That's a fallacy.
    We don't need weido adults grooming K-3rd graders in school.
    No reasonable group of adults wants weirdo groomers grooming 5-8 year olds in school. As for your abstinence crap, K-3rd graders aren't having sex. Do you have a problem with that?
    4th-12th grade, age appropriate instruction is permitted.

    Several Conservative States Look To Mirror Florida’s Parental Rights Bill.

    “There’s no need for any child to ever know the private life of their educator,” state Rep. Dodie Horton (R), the bill’s chief sponsor, told KSLA-TV. “It’s not prejudice to one group or another. It just doesn’t discuss it at all.”

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    This might come as shock to the weirdo deviant adults that want to talk about their sex lives with children, but children really don't want to hear about it. I didn't hear about a teacher's sex life until I was in college and being forced to listen to this old pervert drone on and on about it wasn't pleasant for anyone. He finally shut up about, probably because a student complained about him using classroom time, that we paid for, to traffic in his personal filth. Just **** and teach academics. What the hell is going on with schools? It seems they want to do every damn thing but teach academics. Good teachers must be completely fed up.
    "And the teachers and other school employees want to hide what they’re saying and doing from the parents/guardians. Kids are welcome to discuss this stuff on their own, it should not be brought up and advocate by the adults. They should not be allowed to push impressionable young kids into huge lifestyle changes. That’s not their job."

    "teachers personal lives are not germane to learning math, history, science, art, and so forth."

    I'm glad Parents and Legislatures are stepping up.
     
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    Yes it is. In case you care about learning instead of bleating the party line, here is a basic article: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition

    Which one? Or do you mean you disagree with the premise that theocracy or censorship are generally bad?

    They don't, and talking about gender isn't doing that. And if they did truly do sexual grooming, existing laws put them in prison.

    The Louisiana law addresses k-12. But you missed the point. That was a separate and clearer example of conservative stupidity in the classroom.

    Kids have to feel safe to learn, and social issues come up at school. Kids do deal with gender identity issues early, often starting around age 6. Teachers need to feel free to empathize with and relate to their students without gag orders. This does not mean they should tell perverse stories to an 8 year old. But we don't need new laws to address that.

    An early sex ed class at age 8 would have been nice for me, as I had my first crush at that age. I think I had my first one a year later.

    Imaginary problems with oppressive solutions.
     
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