Red States Considering Bill Like Florida's Parental Rights Law

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  1. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    And yet, when adults are prohibited from discussing these issues with K-3rd graders we have some folks screaming like something tender is being crushed by a vice.

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    Not in FL. These children do not have gender dysphoria and if they do, they need professional help, not the C students who got their teaching credentials in classroom instruction, not graduate degres in psychology or psychiatry.
    Teachers need to shut up about their personal sex lives in front of young children if they want to teach in schools where the legislature has prohibited teachers talking sex to young children. What kind of a pervert adult wants to talk about sex to K-3rd graders? You're right, this law should be completely unnecessary, but, obviously that is not the case in public schools today.
    Healthy 8 year olds don't need non-parent adults discussing sex with them.

    I would NEVER engage any minor person, of any age in a discussion about sex, not even a 17 year old. I know of NO persons, other than doctors or mental health professionals or their parents that would. I'm sure that normal teachers are horrified that anyone is expecting them to engage young children in sex talks. What the hell is up with our schools that they seem to want to do everything but teach academics?
     
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    XXJefferson#51 Banned

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    There are no extreme RW radical state legislatures in the USA.,
     
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    If it was imaginary then Leftists wouldn’t be going crazy and LYING about what this bill is or calling it a fake marketed name to produce outrage and confuse useful idiots.

    And there is NOTHING oppressive about parents not wanting their children talking to teachers about sex or 15 genders, without their knowledge. Telling a child there are more than 2 genders is already grooming them. If a child does ask a teacher about such topics, then the teacher can email or call the parents and let THEM decide on how to approach it. Because THEY are the PARENTS. The teacher is in their life for 8 months. The parents are in their kids life for LIFE. How dare any teacher feel it’s their job to manipulate how a 5 year old thinks about sex behind a parents back and why do you think it’s ok?
     
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    Even if true, that makes this proactive and not reactive, which is good

    This is one of the main points, thanks for bringing it up. They can learn to read and write but aren't near as well as they should. That's the primary reason all this bullshit (and it's not limited to sex ed) shouldn't be taught. If you aren't teaching kids the basics that will actually help them be successful, then you don't have time to be teaching sex ed to young children (which you shouldn't be doing anyway). There's absolutely nothing that says kids need sex ed (of any kind) at that age anyway. You know what they do need though?.....to learn reading, writing, math, etc...get it yet?

    You dishonesty is laughable.
     
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    I said the problem was imaginary, not the effects of the solution. Don't say gay might be overly simplistic in describing a complex and vague law, but is it really inaccurate?

    Grooming them to not be hateful, closed-minded conservatives maybe, ha. I mean that's what this is really about isn't it? It's sort of like liberals making a law that taking a kid to church is child abuse and brain-washing, grooming them to be non-thinking faithbots.

    Teachers trying to get kids to be trans or gay is extremely unlikely, but perhaps with a lot of effort fox could find an example of that rare bad apple to promote outrage and pretend it's relevant. Mostly, teachers try to create an environment of respect, and that includes accepting people who don't fit traditional models of gender. Now what? Now they can't speak about certain topics and will just have to pretend not to notice such issues that come up. "Talk to your parents, don't talk to me." Odds are the parents aren't as enlightened as the teacher, frankly. The teacher sees hundreds to low thousands of kids in their career and the parent only knows their few kids and has their own agenda that may or may not be what the kid wants as a distinct individual. Generally, many people are pressured to be something they're not by their family.
     
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    "proactive".....like I said, a made up issue. A solution with no problem...brilliant.
     
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    If you’re upset that you can’t talk about your sexual behavior and gender identity to 6 year old kids that aren’t yours, I know everything I need to know about you...
     
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    Does the bill only apply to “5 year olds / 6 year olds” and younger?

    If yes — you haven’t read the bill
    If no — why do y’all keep dishonestly acting like it only applies to very small children
     
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    After reading about the bill, the only part I have a problem with is the "bounty" element from the state.
    I don't have a problem with NOT educating K-3rd grade students about sexual topics.
    I also think they shouldn't be educated in any religious topics. Why not include that in a bill?
     

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