Regeneron Dirty Don's miracle drug made from aborted fetal tissue.

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  1. FreshAir

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    I explain what I mean, which I suspect you already know. Then you will want to argue about that point. It has already gone beyond the point worth arguing as far as I am concerned.
     
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    Stem cells also come from adults.

    As to Regeneron:
    Trap Fusion Proteins: Regeneron's novel and patented Trap technology creates high-affinity product candidates for many types of signaling molecules, including growth factors and cytokines. The Trap technology involves fusing two distinct fully human receptor components and a fully human immunoglobulin-G constant region.

    Fully Human Monoclonal Antibodies: Regeneron has developed a suite (VelociSuite) of patented technologies, including VelocImmune and VelociMab, that allow Regeneron scientists to determine the best targets for therapeutic intervention and rapidly generate high-quality, fully human antibodies drug candidates addressing these targets.[30]:255–258
     
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    All we know about the Trump investments is posted by CNN on many pages of the required form.

    Seems to be loaded with treasuries and bonds.
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/31/politics/read-trump-financial-disclosure-2019/index.html
     
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    Remember when Democrats screamed that Bush killed stem cell research? They lied.
     
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    Trump delivered his filing for finances in July of 2019, not in 2020
     
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    yes, so he must of sold before July 2019 then if he did not file in July 2020, if his filings are accurate that is

    of course Trump could have bought more right before he gave their company 450 million if tax payer dollars
     
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    nope, the reason they had to use fetal cells from way back in 1972 is because of such laws, you know that right?

    good things those were exempt from such laws
     
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    This is misinformation.
     
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    Whoever is saying this is wrong.
     
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    Monoclonal antibody production uses myeloma cells, not fetal cells.
     
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    Why is every “scientific” post today at PF a blatant mischaracterization of reality? Why does no one care? Unbelievable.
     
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    well everyone else posted links, where is yours

    this fetus from 1972 was used in the production of this drug, no one has to take it if they are against that
     
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    You doubt me? I’m not the one posting endless streams of false “science” all over this joint. And there has been no link provided in this thread which supports the OP.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/zy6dpbk/revision/1
     
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    your link did not show that copies of these fetal cells were not used in the development of this treatment, try again
     
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    G W Bush was not president in 1972. I believe Nixon was.
     
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    which is why these fetal cells could be collected and used still back then, they were exempted from laws passed later on
     
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    just think how many lives that women in 1972 may have saved by simply choosing not to have a baby at that time in her life, including the President of the United States
     
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    I am still researching this claim. ^^^^ Will report to this forum upon my conclusion. This I do know, when Democrats denounced Bush for stopping stem cell research, they lied. I used to argue this when Bush was president. Democrats flat out do not mind lying.
     
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    he did, but he could not stop those collected prior to the law he signed passing
     
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    they are used quite often it appears

    "Abortion opponents protest COVID-19 vaccines’ use of fetal cells"

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/abortion-opponents-protest-covid-19-vaccines-use-fetal-cells

    "Cells derived from elective abortions have been used since the 1960s to manufacture vaccines, including current vaccines against rubella, chickenpox, hepatitis A, and shingles. They have also been used to make approved drugs against diseases including hemophilia, rheumatoid arthritis, and cystic fibrosis. Now, research groups around the world are working to develop more than 130 candidate vaccines against COVID-19, according to the World Health Organization; 10 had entered human trials as of 2 June."
     
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    as for the 1972 cells used

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/abortion-opponents-protest-covid-19-vaccines-use-fetal-cells

    "At least five of the candidate COVID-19 vaccines use one of two human fetal cell lines: HEK-293, a kidney cell line widely used in research and industry that comes from a fetus aborted in about 1972; and PER.C6, a proprietary cell line owned by Janssen, a subsidiary of Johnson & Johnson, developed from retinal cells from an 18-week-old fetus aborted in 1985. Both cell lines were developed in the lab of molecular biologist Alex van der Eb at Leiden University. Two of the five vaccines have entered human trials (see table, below)."
     
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    from the company itself, they used "HEK 293T cells", and as you can see from the link above, those sells were from a fetus aborted in 1972

    https://www.businessinsider.com/tru...generon-tested-cells-derived-abortion-2020-10

    "One of Trump's COVID-19 treatments was developed using tissue that originally came from an abortion. He's tried to ban this kind of research."

    "Regeneron, the company that made the antibody cocktail Trump received, told the MIT Technology Review that it used HEK 293T cells — a line of cells that scientists have used for decades — that originally came from a fetus aborted in the Netherlands in the 1970s."
     

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