Incorrect. You need both as your faith would be hollow and vain without good works. Read the rest of the 2nd Chapter of the Book of James.
What is CD saying that is different? He is always about christ = truth? So you and Myview worked out what? Is every human now suppose to follow you and myview?
Im saying that humanity would just replace it with something that did the same thing. If we could stop hating people we don't know religion would be benign.
(I'll try to be short, my schedule calls.....) You are right, some or even a lot of religious groups do. But I tend to be on the side of attacking the problem first and letting the cause sort itself out when it comes to ingrained social issues. What happens when we attack religion head on is that we bring out the worst kind or reaction. I think we need to be respectful and try to appeal to individuals sense of decency. When religious people take time and reflect on their actions they are at least sometimes able to see the hypocrisy in light of their faiths. I come from a hard line fundamentalist background, but I have seen the light shine on even the most die hard of them when they find their children to be part of the community they most strongly discriminate against. I know its sappy, but love can win.
What is it with all these anti religious views? What happened to tolerance? EVERYONE has a 'religion' or a philosophy of life. How does bashing other people's beliefs provide such jollies? I don't get it. Perhaps this is the beginnings of blame. A scapegoat is needed. Hitler had the jews, progressives need one too. How about 'religion?!?' You have your religion. You might not like the term, but if you use it as a smear for other's philosophical views, it should apply evenly to yours as well. You cannot & will never eliminate religion, or people's need or desire to have a philosophical basis for their existence. I suspect your beef is christianity. Why not just say so? Blast the doctrines or issues you disagree with. But a blanket dismissal of ALL philosophies of life is pretty lame.
I get your point and I do not have a problem with just Christianity. Wouldn't it be nice if everyone could live just by the golden rule. Just because I have a problem with religion does not mean I'm a progressive or a liberal. Everyone keeps labeling me. Both sides do it. My political views are much more right leaning. I've never voted for Democrat, but in recent years I have not voted Republican either. Sorry all my views do not fit in one little box.
Nope. You were the one who quoted me in my discussion with myview. I will not repeat it for your leisure, as you were obviously not privy to the original discussion and are too lazy to look up the circumstances yourself. Your nosiness does not dictate my actions.
What philosophical basis do you have for everyone to live by the 'golden rule?' Why should i give a f**k about doing to others as i would have them do to me? Is it a dog eat dog world, or not? Is it survival of the fittest, or sacrifice our lives so others can whoop it up? Why should i be motivated to contribute to overpopulating the earth with irresponsible 3rd world people, giving them food to continue breeding uncontrollably? I have not labelled you.. i have noticed an explosion of anti religion threads & posts, lately, & wondered if 'The Daily Leftist' was calling for its readers to be more activist in attacking christianity. But really, that was just an aside. My central point is that religion will not go. Whether it is islam, hinduism, or secular humanism, or atheism, EVERYONE has a philosophy of life, or belief system that defines them. Even confusion or uncertainty qualifies.
Yes, love thy neighbor works because such an approach avoids the noticifation attending an offer to fight. Intendo is a Ju Juitsi methodlogy that teaches self defense by allowing the bully to see no physical resistance from his intented victim, as he confidently comes closer and hence more vulnerable to a fatal blow to the adam's apple or an index finger through the eye, int the brain. This same opportunity exosts to influence he prejudice of the thinking of an unbeliever or different denominational member. It is Socratic, and begins by getting the person to re-evaluate his own thinking. But in the case of an enemy of omes' own enemy, the sandwich effect fo a lengthy duration squeeze the common enemy between them. The Christians who see atheiats sexual peromiscuity as the evil that must be quelled would be wise to laud the behavior of the Muslims who have demonstrated sexual prudence so long and si well. Chrostians need preach he Truth, and wise up America to the socail problems inherent in Sexual Promiscuity, while inoring the force and violence by which Islam attempts to drive Western Culture away and now, out of the world of the present Global Village. Offering salvation to America and the West by means of facing the Truth about decadence supplies the good reasons to appease Islam with more prudence and less effrot to get their women to paint their faces and shorten their dresses.
Yes, that is the sum of the New Testament. Since Christ is euated to the ideal we call Truth, His father must be the corresponding ever-unfolding next frame of Reality which sires that Truth. Hence, Christians are mislead to say Jesus is Love. He is nt. The Reality is that our envu-ironment loves us, since we are perfectly adapted to it. Reality is the Loving glove which fits our hand. But our salvation depends upon Truth, since we must continuously adapt to the ever changing reality as the Facts-of-Life demand we face them, honestly.
It doesn't have to be called the golden rule. I just want to live in peace therefore I have no problem letting others live in peace. But I will defend myself. I believe religions have to many rules and customs that are not necessary. They can't even agree on one God or Gods. And even the ones that do say they praise the same God will argue over such petty things like dates. What difference does it make? I know it won't happen any time soon but I would like to think that humanity can get past all this. Humanity should get past it differences and concentrate more on what we have in common. It would be nice if we could get past materialism as well. Some people have already done this.
It sounds like you're coming around to a more tolerant view.. why not 'live & let live'? But let me point out a few more things in your reply: 1. 'I believe religions have to many rules and customs that are not necessary.' You also have 'rules & customs' that are non necessary. You don't have to list them, you know what they are. 2. 'They can't even agree on one God or Gods.' YOU are one of the THEY. You can't agree, either. Whatever you condemn in another in this philosophical arena, it comes back & applies to you, too. You are a human & part of the madness. Humanity never 'gets past' anything. We do the same stupid things over & over. We repeat history all the time. Technology changes, but not the human psyche. I would not expect any great advances in the human condition anytime soon. Evolution, even in theory, does not move THAT fast. When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained. ~Mark Twain
And yet, the vast and overwhelming majority of people in prison (especially in the U.S) are not religious.
I've always been tolerant. I don't think religion should be outlawed. I just think that humans need to evolve into a different mind set. I know it will never happen anytime soon. I just think we would be better for it. Maybe things will be different in a 1000 years.
The problem is not religion itself. It's religion's intrusion into government. It's crazy how much power some of the more major religions hold over their countries respectively.
Most of the governments that have existed were based on religion, with the head of state being the chief priest. That's how we ended up with the God character of the Bible. The idea of secular governments is only about 200 years old.
After hundreds of thousands were killed in religious crusades and those that weren't catholic were killed on sight,
Its important to know that among those who were murdered were true believers who refused to submit to Roman Catholic teachings......most of not all were not Catholic but for some reason the Roman Catholic Church thought they had the right to compel them to become Catholic or be killed, so they chose be obedient to Jesus instead and be murdered.
