Report: U.S. Sanctions Have Killed 40,000 in Venezuela Since 2017

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  1. Horhey

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    A program of destabilization. Utilized by the US in Cuba, Chile 1973, and Nicaragua in the 1980s, which ultimately won the war against the Sandinista government in 1990. Making the people suffer as much as possible until they cry "uncle" and accept Washington's choice of government.

    US Media Ignore—and Applaud—Economic War on Venezuela - FAIR.org
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    A Washington Post op-ed (1/24/19) urges Trump to “ratchet up pressure” on Venezuela, while insisting that the country “has been driven into the ground by the repressive socialist policies pursued by Nicolás Maduro.”

     
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    Illegal and morally bankrupt. Americans should be ashamed of their government.
     
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    The situation has of course got a lot worse with the new sanctions which the US has brought in to hurt the people of both Venezuela and Iran - and the intent is in both cases to starve the people hoping to create civil war and through that do regime change.

    The US is ignoring International Law on a level that only Dictators, dare I say fascist Dictators would dare and with other countries, not least the UK's Bank of England has now stolen around 5 Billion dollars or was that trillion, from them, never mind everything else they can get their hands on, consulates and so on though I understand the good people of the US are occupying the Embassy to keep it safe for its rightful people in accordance with International Law.. I will say it again, when Putin said that the US committed genocide by sanctions, he knew what he was talking about...and this is supported by both the Democrats and the Republicans....why do I get the feeling it might be something corporate power want.

    This is the finance minister of Venezuela talking at the UN. I am sure other people who have seen him speaking before will notice how subdued he is

     
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    Yes the sanctions are devastating to the people in the countries affected, this is going to haunt us all for a very long time. It is also exacerbating America's border crisis and affecting the stability of neighbouring countries.

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    Venezuela has an evil government that does bad things. The U.S. just wants them to be decent, like Norway, New Zealand, and France. Would that be so hard to do?

    In Star Wars terms, they should abandon the dark side.
     
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    They always say that sanctions are to hurt the government they are trying to regime change.

    The regime usually does just fine. It's the women and children who suffer and die.

    Between 200,000 and 600,000 of them in Iraq alone.
     
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    and as you explain here the evil and bad things are

    You are supporting the destruction of Venezuela and it's people particularly the poor because you believe that if a country has a mixed economy as Venezuela had and as the UK had prior to Thatcherism and may well have again if Corbyn is elected, the people of that country should be destroyed .... and that would be totally lacking in democratic thought and totally lacking in any idea of 'freedom' or 'liberty' on its own but you also know that in this situation it is to do with resources Venezuela in particular, having the most oil in the world at a time when the US also is trying to starve to death the people of another country, Iran, and wants to make sure that it can replace their oil or indeed all the oil which would be lost if the straits of Hormuz were closed, depriving the US of all oil from the region. Control over the oil of Venezuela would sort this out and leave the idea of war with Iran and the subsequent shutting off of the ME's oil supply, something which the US would not suffer from, (never mind the sights the US has on Venezuelan gold )and it becomes more obvious why the US with a current White Supremacist/fascist Government is trying to destroy the coloured people of Venezuela and return it to White Supremacists who will hand over the use of her resources to America.
     
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    Why would Venezuela want trade with evil capitalist pigs anyway?
     
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    Are you ashamed of your government?
     
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    For other reasons. It's part in enabling the Yemen humanitarian crisis.

    Strange question though, given the thread's topic.
     
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    I am tired of foreigners like you coming here to bash the United States
     
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    Perhaps, given the death toll, you should direct your emotions towards fighting against US illegal acts?
     
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    Venezuela is a communist country. They're supposed to be a worker's paradise whether the US is involved with their economy or not. What would sanctions from the US have to do with them at all?
     
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    It is yourselves who are bad mouthing them. They gave the poor of your country reduced price oil when Chavez was alive and the oil price had not been suddenly decimated to get at Iran and Venezuela.
     
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    I return to my question - why would they want trade with the evil capitalist pigs anyway?

    Since when does socialism need trade with exploitative capitalist imperialists to prevent 40,000 people from starving?
     
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    The US is now personaly sanctioning Arreaza as well as one of Venezuela's judges. In the case of Arreaza it is believed that is because of his speach at the UN which I linked to above.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-venezuela-since-2017.554898/#post-1070500571

    First of all the US Openly bribes countries at the UN warning them that if they do not do what the US wants they will not get aid. Then the US simply starts stealing the money of people who say what the US does not want people told. They are up the creak in their determination to be dictator of the world. The world will not stand for it.


    https://www.telesurenglish.net/news...s&utm_campaign=NewsletterIngles&utm_content=8
     
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    No country is forced to trade witkh another. Your nation should at a minimum be able to feed its own population without the help of another.
     
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    The US holds a lot of their money. They have stolen over $5billion from them since I think 2017. All countries deal with other countries whether they are their friends or not. It is the US who is stealing their money and resources because it wants to have them. It is the US who is plundering them. They want their money back. The UK of course is also stealing their money or at least the Bank of England is.
     
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    Should a country be allowed to deliberately inflict damage on another? Other than the deaths, a further 300,000 are at risk. This includes “80,000 HIV patients who have not had antiretroviral treatment since 2017, 16,000 people who need dialysis, 16,000 people with cancer, and 4 million with diabetes and hypertension.”
     
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    Veinezuela should invest in the pharma industry then.
    No country is forced to trade with another.
     
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    We have a situation compared with a modern economic version of medieval siege warfare. We have 40,000 killed because of it. We have hundreds of thousands at threat. And you can't even manage to place any blame on the US illegal act. Best leave it at that. Right wing authoritarianism summed up.
     
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    The US is the bully of the world. Everyone knows that as the US is currently sanctioning Venezuela, if they do business with Venzuela, then they will be sanctioned too just like with Iran. That makes people afraid to do business despite, as their foreign minister said, them being an extremely trustworthy country to deal with.

    The US's intent is to starve the people and let those with serious medical problems die as more than 40,000 civilians have already, young and old, for instance those with aids and diabetes and other illness can no longer get treatment because the US like with Gaza, like with Iran and now with them has decided they should be destroyed so that she can get control of their oil and their gold.



    Never mind their cutting off of their electricity.
     
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    No country is forced to trade with another.
    Venezuela is free to trade with others.
     
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    Venezuela should thrive to be self sufficient.
     
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    What exactly do you think is going on? Do you believe the US is stopping giving them aid? No, the US is stopping them getting their own money so that they can trade. The US is deliberately by stealth murdering the civilians of Venezuela.
     
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