Report; Zionist rape cult exposed

I would say that ' universal moral standards ' trump discreet religious moral standards in almost every area. There may, of course, be anomalies but the example you mention isn't one of them.

' Moral strength ' is just another way of expressing good character.

 

No you'd make the lousy policeman as you argue that entire groups are guilty of the crimes of individuals who happen to belong to that group.As if criminal law would permit such connection! LOL

Of course the fact that mormons or muslims allow for more than one marriage may allow some to marry more in accordance with their faith but that would still be a crime in civil law and the question would still be whether the individual breached the law and not the claim that they must committed a crime because they belong to a specific faith.
No one knows what an ultra-orthodox group here is meant to be and you have not been very helpful in this regard. Do you include priests?

 

No, that's not my claim. You've distorted my claim to try to prop up your failed criticism. My claim is that the criminal nature of Zionism enhances criminal activity, not that all Zionists are guilty of specific crimes , such as those allegedly perpetrated by this rape club.
I'd usually make allowances for anybody using English as a second language but I'm going to make an exception in your case. If you can't understand fine points- don't comment.

 

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Hmm. Now how abt applying the same logic to OBAMOBA + other pro-Israel/pro-Zionists posters when they regularly "spew their vile hate-mongering " or do you only object when someone expose Zionist criminals. ?

btw - Is Moshe Katsav(Israel's xPresident ) a Zionist or not ?

 

What makes you think that English is my second language? That is rather presumptious of you Moon. In fact making statements of that kind indicate that you are now uncomfotable with the illogical nature of your thinking. Next you'll be correcting my grammar and then we'll know that you are backtracking...
Prove that zionism enhances criminal activitity (specifically rape) because that is apparently your claim. Any studies on that? Or are you using the examples pertaining to individuals only Mr. Policeman to prove your case? LOL

 

Rabbis send letter of support to Katsav AFTER he's been convicted of rape.


Dozens of Religious Zionism leaders urge former president convicted of rape to 'be strong'. People of Zion waiting for injustice to be removed and truth to come out, they say.
'With deep appreciation'
The rabbis stress in their letter that they attitude towards the former president has not changed following his conviction of two counts of rape. "Respectfully yours and with deep appreciation as before," they conclude.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4033125,00.html


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Anyone could easily have made that presumption due to the flags you've chosen. Cant think of many Englishmen/women who'd fly such a flag. or vice versa.

Auf wiedersehen pet .

 

Well some people are "flying" English and Singaporean flags or the like. Perhaps flags indicate the location of the poster - they surely do not say a whole lot more.

I don't think my use of the English language warrants the assumption that Moon made, do you? What about you? You seem to have some difficulty with the language despite the flag you are flying...

 

This is your evidence that zionism enhances rape?

People have away of not wanting to believe that the person that they know and care for (not matter how bad he is) is guilty and encourage him or her to "be strong" hoping that they will be exonerated. Still waiting for evidence though that zionism enhances rape...any study will do.

 

That's coz I'm lazy(more at ease with greasy spanners/nuts/bolts than keyboards) and have no intention of changing to impress plonkers like you.

Sorry , I dont buy yr excuse of others flying false flags . It doesnt explain/excuse you flying a German flag - posting under a German moniker ,

Ziehen Sie das andere , Sie sind nicht täuschen niemanden

The Ideology of Zionism, like Fascism,Communism . Nazism , all have sounded appealling/acceptable to some people in theory, but sadly turned out to be pretty awful in practice.

Pls desist and stop yr nonsense , go back on the thread and read Moon's precise words , he said :

If you find that unacceptable , then why not prove him wrong ?

cheers .

 

It is only in moons narrow and limited opinion that Zionism is criminal. Why should I accept his opinions, when I know from first hand experience otherwise. He would tell you I am a criminal, because of my views, thank g-d he has no ability to do anything other than rant on the legalities of world matters.

 

And while you rant on about this, there is a muslim selling his daughter to his neighbor while she is under the age of 15 to be taken and raped. And its legal.

Yet not one peep from you when it comes to that.

Speaks loudly about you.

 

Sadly, two crimes do not make one good. The sad fact that some cultures allow 15 year old to be raped does not make it acceptable to hate and murder Palestinians. Zionists would also do better if they focused on solving their own problems instead of blaming everyone else.

 

It is not a "limited opinion" that some Zionists are criminal, but rather a fact of reality, and by unconditionally defending such crime, as many seem to do, one is not doing Zionism any good. If one really cared anything about Zionism, then one would recognize and accept its faults while working towards fixing them, instead of blaming and condemning everyone else. Moon is simply pointing out that the problems with Zionism won't be solved by blaming Moon. Yet, sadly, some Zionists don't want to realize such.

 

Your the only one saying that

 

Its a crime only in the eyes of narrow minded left wing bigots who hate jews, its only too pc to say that. You give moon much to much credit

 

People who hate the Goyim (about 99,9% of humans) are usually pro-Zionist bigots who hate everyone who does not close an eye on the crimes of Zionism.

And these bigots limit their argumentation to personal attacks, accusing their opponents of being "Nazis", "Islamists", "Leftists", "Anti-Semites" or even "Self-Hating-Jews".

And these discussion tactics are just old and pathetic.

 

muslims can rape their women and are protected under sharia law!!

 

you and your vile cult will not take the US!!!RICK PERRY2012

 

I assumed that your ' flag ' indicated your nationality but it's the poor quality of your responses to logic which leads me to believe that English is your second language. You haven't clarified that one way or the other- not that you're required to.
I don't have to ' prove that Zionism enhances criminal activitity [sic] ' . All I have to do is to point out that the long list of criminal and degenerate behaviour on the part of ultra-orthodox Zionists in Israel is not mirrored by ultra-orthodox groups elsewhere. If you want to unseat my conclusions then simply demonstrate that such behaviour is mirrored by ultra-orthodox groups elsewhere. Good luck and viel Glueck.

Not at all. Ethnic cleansing is criminal and neoZionism is rooted in ethnic cleansing as policy. That's demonstrable. Are you sure you want to continue to attack this fact from your rickety platform ?

 

In the light of the almost universal acceptance of ethnic cleansing as criminal activity I'd like you to show how this basic moral law determines the anti-jewish nature of all those who subscribe to it.

Pencils and rubbers are available on request.

 

You have failed to explain what you mean by ultra-orthodox zionists or simply what you mean by ultra-orthodox. The only group described ultra-orthodox are Haredem Jews, your use of the term more generally suggests sleight of hand.

The Breslov sect of Haredim Jews are split on the issue of zionism, som are antizionists and some are zionists just as in the wider Haredim branch of Judaism. I don't know whether the sect members arrested in this case were zionists or not. You claim all ultra-orthodox Jews in Israel are zionists demonstrating ignorance of the traditional antizionist stand of ultra orthodox Jews. The fact is that Haredim Jews are extremely fractured on their position to zionism. Even the antizionists are split for example:

After two men associated with the radical branch of Neturei Karta participated in a 2004 prayer vigil for Yasser Arafat outside the Percy Military Hospital in Paris, France, where he lay on his death bed, the radical branch of Neturei Karta was widely condemned by other Orthodox Jewish organizations, including many other anti-Zionist Haredi organizations both in New York and Jerusalem. Rabbi Moshe Hirsch, and what the Hirsch's faction described as an "impressive contingent" of other members, attended Arafat's funeral in Ramallah.

Almost a year after the Gaza Crisis a group of Neturei Karta members which crossed into Gaza as part of the Gaza Freedom March to celebrate Jewish Shabbos to show of support for Palestinians in the Hamas ruled enclave.

source


So first drop the ultra-orthodox subterfuge and use the term Haredim, then provide evidence that the zionist Haredim are more criminal than the antizionist Haredim.

 

My "excuse" about flying another flag? What "excuse" is that? Who am I trying to "täuschen" or trick and why? You seem to be a trifle paranoid. This is just a forum and none of our opinions count in reality..so don't look for "clues". My location is irrelevant anyway for the purposes of the debate and insinuating anything in this respect is childish and irrelevant. I would also suggest that you write in English because your German could not be made sense of. I also do not need to prove Moon wrong. He has to prove his assertion that zionism is characterised by more criminality than any other political idelogogy and I am still awaiting that evidence. Isolated incidences do not prove a theory. He would need a study done with control groups. To my knowledge he has not shown this.

No one said that two crimes make one crime good. The OP claimed that zionism was linked to rape which is untrue. No single examples of crimes committed by any individuals can be said to reflect on the other members of the group. Isn't that you and Moon detest about the posts by others? Seems it is only OK in one direction but not both.

Many others on this same thread disagreed with your logic so it appears that language is not the issue unless it is your use of language and logic that is the problem And yes, you have to prove your claims. You cannot prove that a group specifically "enhances" rape by using isolated cases and then illogically conclude that these incidences prove that in other groups no such incidences occur or that they occur less often. You have to prove it! That seems to surpirse you...LOL

Nowhere have you shown that rape is more likely in this particular population more than in others. Please prove that. It cannot be for me to disprove YOUR claim which I will - once again - call bogus.

Now where is your evidence that in this particular group (which you have yet to adequately define), rape is enhanced comparative to other groups?

 

I don't have to conduct a scientific survey. I've posted a list of criminal and immoral episodes perpetrated by Zionist ultra-orthodox groups in Israel, rape, promotion of baby-killing, promotion of genocide, etc. That's factual. Again, you can unseat my opinion by posting a list of the same, or similar, crimes perpetrated by ultra-orthodox groups elsewhere. If you can't, and friend T has certainly failed, then I don't see what other course you have but to accept my suggestion. So accept the challenge or say uncle.

 

Your argument could make sense if this was a unique situation, but with Israel's practice of apartheid in the nation of Palestine, such behavior has become a frequent Zionist pattern. Human rights does not appear to be a Zionist strength, as everyone has been pointing out for decades. Maybe more Zionists could make a better effort in improving the reputation of Zionism instead of being so heavily defensive of its faults? Many Israelis in the streets appear to agree with me.