Republicans won't let Benghazi go . . .

Where is the proof showing that's what happened?

 

Read the thread.

 

The initial Fox lie was that people at the annex were told to "stand down," repeated ad naseum in the RW propaganda press and its acolytes here.

As to the rest of the forces, your question is answered in the very same paragraph:

"The Committee has reviewed the allegations that U.S. personnel, including in the IC (Intelligence Community) or DoD, prevented the mounting of any military relief effort during the attacks, but the Committee has not found any of these allegations to be substantiated."

 

Give up this ridiculous pap. Fox simply reported testimony.

You are trying desperately to make a lie out of semantics. When an Army ranger testifies that he was told not to take action, when a Congressman who sits on the House Intelligence Committee comes out of closed door sessions and says testimony was given as to "stand down" orders being given multiple times, when the former Deputy Chief of Mission in Libya who was in charge that night testifies that the Pentagons' claim that there was no "stand down" order is a contradiction as to his first hand experience then FOX is not lying. Its called reporting what others say. To continue with this one-sided rant of dishonesty and falsehood is to be a liar yourself.

 

Fox News, who lied about the "stand down" order and their facts in their story, versus the bi-partisan report of the Senate Intelligence Committee after a year long investigation.

I know which one is more credible to me. I'm sure you and a lot of our conservative friends would go with the Rupert outlet.

 

He didn't lie about or let 9/11 happen.

Just admit you lied to the people to get some political power. That is all we want, just a little truth. Besides, every day on Benhghazi is one less day with another hair brained big cash giveaway for something stupid. Like paying people to destroy perfectly good cars when people are struggling to afford transportation.

 

All I've seen are people complaining about the talking points being edited to not point to Al Queda being specifically responsible for the attacks and that a video may have had a part in the attacks. None of these edits came from Obama or his election campaign staff. The edits were shown to be made due to confidentiality and to not interfere with investigations.
Plus what would Obama need to cover up anyway? It's not like anyone was saying there wasn't an attack or denying casualties. There's nothing to cover up and nothing would have to be covered up to help re-elect Obama. Even with all the hubbub and faux outrage the right mustered up about some corrupt "cover up" it had no effect on the election. Unless you want to say it made the right and Mitt Romney look like petty blowhards.

And to complain about some "stand down" order that never actually happened is sort of moot. Especially when you're quoting testimony but leaving out the part that says it was the right move to remain in Tripoli in hindsight.

 

You are exactly right. It's not that there was anything to cover up. Cover up is just the ammo needed to get a scandal started that doesn't exist.

 

Starting in March requests for additional security were sent to the State Dept and apparently ignored. In early August the State Dept astoundingly REMOVED Security teams from Benghazi despite the repeated requests for more. During the Benghazi hearings Hillary Clinton blurted out "What difference does it make". If she was referring to 4 Americans being dead, including the first American Ambassador killed in the line of duty since 1979, in that narrow scope she was correct we can't bring them back to life. The real problem is the breakdown in leadership to such an extent, our people in Benghazi were asking for more security and got LESS security and died because of it. While we can bring back those 4 men, we can make sure that something like this never, ever happens again. Increasingly over the last several decade, accountability of those in Government, elected, appointed and hired has diminished to nil. That to me is the root of things like Benghazi, Fast & Furious, IRSgate and the DOE energy loans. They are free to make as big a mess as they want and no one is held accountable even when people die like Fast & Furious and Benghazi. First, everyone that should have done something but didn't whether that is failure to act or just ignored their duty should be terminated immediately. To the best of my knowledge no one connected with the four Governmental failures listed above have been terminated or charged with a crime where applicable. Second, changes must be made to policies, procedures and rules to prevent any of it from happening again.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's leadership of the Dept was a miserable failure or it would never have happened, that is self evident. She was right to resign when she did she was the leader, the Captain of the Ship and ultimately responsible for the disaster in Benghazi. Sadly, Benghazi would no longer be an issue except the very same leader that presided over the State Dept, now wants to be the leader of our whole country, that is something that should never, ever happen. Benghazi will continue to be an issue till Hillary retires PERMANENTLY to private life and never darkens the doorstep of public office again.

 

The initial Obama lie was told the day after, and getting the truth from your side is like pulling teeth; blasphemy laws anyone?
http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=339632&p=1063652596#post1063652596

Tell the truth for once, please.

Was his statement "we reject all efforts" true, and in compliance with our Constitution and his oath of office to protect and defend it, or was it closer to compliance with an anti-defamation of Islam law sought at the United Nations (of tyrants too)?

 

Because of some conspiracy or because there was one political party screaming every chance they had that the gov't needed to stop spending?

 

I wish I had a snapshot of all US forces on that day...ya know, since I do pay for that deployment. I know we have assets all over the region. The US military doesn't have void zones that we can't get to within 8 hours. Maybe in the heart of the Congo or Amazon, or the top of Mt. Everest. But the northern coast of Libya, during the Arab Spring, immediately following a major air operation, that's a void zone on Sep 11, 2012? It's completely laughable. Assets were there, period. Anyone who really believes they weren't is going to depart from my logic immediately in this whole affair.

As far as Fox news telling lies, I don't think so. I believe the guy that we had in charge of every single US civilian (and some military) in the entire country said this, (and at this point I don't remember if he said it, or he was recounting LtCol Gibson saying it), "I never thought I'd see the day when the State Dept. had more balls than the DoD". Um, when someone with Hicks' position says this, I'm pretty sure it implies some sort of stand down order somewhere, and it is a legitimate news story to report.

 

Chaffetz accused people of changing their testimony in that hearing. So I guess the question is if the stand down order didn't happen, then why did everyone stand down? We heard the Tripoli protection excuse offered in the hearing for LtGol Gibson's 4 man team. But we do know that in 8 hours, the only US assets that showed up was some help from Tripoli (late as hell because they chartered a Libyan plane), and 2 Predator drones. Who else showed up? So we know the actions of almost all US forces on that day were standing down. I mean, unless you can show me some other military that made it there, or even some on the way, that's what everyone did. They sat there. So how does that not indicate a stand down order was given somewhere?

 

So all you have is conjecture? What are you expecting to find? That Obama or Hillary wanted these people to die? That it was possible for them to save these people somehow but didn't want to? What kind of smoking gun are you expecting to find?

 

They don't have to be right or even close to being right, they just have to harp on it endlessly to be effective. Every day of every administration, Rep or Dem, the idea is simply to keep the pressure on and to throw (*)(*)(*)(*) against a wall to see if any of it sticks.

 

Sorry, the State Dept was sitting on $2 Billion Dollars already approved funds for Embassy security. Try again.

 

I just don't sit and listen to my leaders say things that make no sense. I will speak out when I detect deception in my leaders. Saying no stand down order was in place, WHEN NO ONE WAS FREAKIN MOVIN, sounds like deception to me.

 

Btw, it's not conjecture that no one came. No forces moved toward Benghazi that we have been told of. The number 2 guy in Benghazi said no one came. The public has not been informed of anyone that was on the way either. Sounds like a stand down order doesn't it? I mean, how is one supposed to look at those facts, and say, "Nah, no one was told not to go help". Well, why didn't they then?!

 

No such thing happened.

 

Fox News has learned from sources who were on the ground in Benghazi that an urgent request from the CIA annex for military back-up during the attack on the U.S. consulate and subsequent attack several hours later on the annex itself was denied by the CIA chain of command -- who also told the CIA operators twice to "stand down" rather than help the ambassador's team when shots were heard at approximately 9:40 p.m. in Benghazi on Sept. 11.

Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods was part of a small team who was at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When he and others heard the shots fired, they informed their higher-ups at the annex to tell them what they were hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They were told to "stand down," according to sources familiar with the exchange. Soon after, they were again told to "stand down."

LIe. It was a lie when they first published the story claiming it was two guys, Woods and Doherty, who were a mile a way and told to "stand down". Doherty in fact was in Libya, 400 miles away. In typical Fox fashion, they just changed their story without notice. You can see the original, false version as reprinted in other RW rags, like Frontpagenews, here: http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/dg...-gave-the-order-not-to-protect-the-consulate/

But as we now know from various sources not the least of which is the bi-partisan report of the Senate Intelligence Committee after a year long investigation, the whole "stand down" claim, repeated through the RW propaganda media and here repeatedly and ad naseum, was another in a series if Fox lies.

 

So there was no party screaming at the top of their lungs that we should stop spending? WOW, what planet were you on at the time this was happening?

Second, congressional testimony revealed that all available funds were spent. Try again!

 

Ask this Iriemon or whomever says Fox news Lied.Was it the same cartoonish
con artists from this White House who crafted a lie about some Video being
the culprit.Kept up that Lie even as the draped coffin of one of the americans
brought home in a box was set up and used as a prop as Hillary and Obama
tried to tear-up,informing Americans how sad a day.How about the very night of the
attack.Where was Hillary,that fateful,deadly night.Where was Obama.
Obama was briefed at around 5 pm By Panetta and told it was a Terror attack.
Obama's whereabout that entire night are a mystery.We also know that there
was a live feed in real time of the attack.There was drone capability that night for the
feed.We have Military men and generals swearing to the fact that Help could have
been given.In the least a couple fighter jets could have been used to buzz the area and
scatter any terrorist.
This it astonishing.The real Liars are the ones who for almost 2 weeks engaged in a plot
to con the public about some video as the reason for the attack.Now they act all proud
because this Lollipop MSM refuses,even now to take them to task.
Susan Rice just made an appearance on - Meet the Press - over a week ago,
acting proud about what she told on 5 different sunday shows.
The Country has been hijacked by a State-run media and uber propagandism
where Americana is being targeted and average joe American is now considered
a possible threat to security.This is how the beginnings of Communism operate.
Divide & Conquer,pit groups of people against each other.Lie,Lie,Lie.
Take control of the media.Misinform on a daily,hourly,minute-by-minute
basis.And use Social engineering to confound how Americans interpret the
propaganda they are being spoon fed.
That is why a Video excuse was crafted.That is why that video excuse is not being
taken to task by the MSM. Just like Fast & Furious. It is being down-played
as if it never happened.The Mainstream media is colluding with whatever narrative
helps Obama and the democrat party.American people be doggoned.
The Orwellian world of Doublespeak and Animal Farm has descended.
Before long average joe American will be no more relevant than
Bessy the Cow.Citizens will be relegated to the status of a farm animal.
Before long by Proclamation.

 

Oh, so they were telling the truth........but yet never found any evidence of a "stand down" order. You know, I wish I had to do that to make my beliefs appear to be correct. Sadly, I care whether my beliefs are true or not.

 

The guy's father is not a good enough source to report from? Woods's father said he was told to stand down. Fox can't report that? It says right in the beginning of the article "from sources". How is that a lie? That's called being journalists. That's what you do. You print what others say.

 

The guy's father wasn't there and was mouthing the Fox line.

Every exhaustive investigation, from the Admiral Pinkerton report to the recent bi-partisan Senate report, confirmed there was no such order or intentional delay in getting assistance to Benghazi.

It was just another Fox/RW propaganda generated lie. How many times do people have to be deceived by Fox before they start understanding they are being manipulated?