There is no clear consensus as to how many were killed during Leopold II reign over the Congo. I would hazard a guess at around 1-2 million. And I don't see why you should take any degree of responsibility for the Congo.
10 million is the agreed total by academia. My taking responsibility is my personal integrity. The industrial revolution, which began in uk was due in part to the Belgian Congo, my own delegates failing to dismantle and disassemble the Berlin Conference, Henrey Stanley, a welshman like myself actively co-operating and aiding leopold himself in the colonization. Being a child of God it is my act of duty to take responsibility for my forefathers actions because, after all, Iam a man not a mouse.
Source? I hate to say it but that sentence doesn't quite work. You're saying the industrial revolution occured was because of the Congo. But anyway I don't see what the industrial revolution has to do with the Congo. You can't expect a single group of envoys to guarantee success. His choice, not yours. Why exactly? You weren't even born then. And as much as I applaud your assertiveness I don't it's that well placed.
According to the bible and in this instance iagree in full understanding, we are to take responsibility for our forefathers actions through several generations. In this instance is colonialism (scramble for afrika), a more appropriate crime there is none where we as europeans are still and will forever more reap the rewards. We got done, man up. We gave in to satan and live off of his benefits.
Your ignorance not mine. If you cannot equate the industrial revolution with the scramble for Afrika then you my friend have a lot of reading to do. For starters, the rubber from the congo was used to fit every car in europe with wheels.
I believe they have something similar in North Korea. There has to be a limit. I don't think that colonialism is 100% bad and there were good to come of it. We got done, man up. I hope that you're telling me to do that because I don't appreciate being told to do so. I'm unsure so I'm pointing fingers. I'm not a great believer in Christianity but I can certainly respect your beliefs.
No it isn't. Please link to proof(proof is not a loony black power site) you weren't alive No it wasn't. Belgium didn;t even exist until well after the Industrial revolution You have no delegates Odd that a welshman uses American spelling. None of your forefathers were Belgian.You are an insane black nationalist anti semite.
For sure, the prophecy was fulfilled, now we can move on and the children of Israel can shape a brighter future.
Why do you spell Africa with a 'K'? The congo didn;t have rubber until well after the Industrial revolution. There were no commercial rubber plantations outside Brazil until the beginning of the 20th century. So ,once again. you are full of shlt.
You are an anit semitic (racist towards the 'blackman') laymen. Seek some knowledge and show some respect then, maybe we can talk. Im guessing you wouldnt want to talk to an intelligent person though. My forefathers were welsh, they aided and abetted belgium congo, to the fullest. - - - Updated - - - K as in K.mt - - - Updated - - - ok sab, ithink we would be better off talking about brittany spears here, maybe its more your thing.
Don't be rude. No I don't. The industrial revolution arose from an increase in demand of goods because the conventional method of cottage industry could not keep up. Britain had very little to do with Leopold's ownership of the Congo. No not just the Congo. Vietnam, Indonesia to mention just a few. By the way I have seen that documentary that you posted, before.
Thats not rude, its stating that you dont know the full extent of the colonization of afrika and the events that led to the industrial revolution. it is without doubt that without the colonization of afrika the industrial revolution would never have happened.
And which prophecy is that? And you're still being rude which is not a particularly Civilised value perhaps not a Christian thing to do but obviously you're the expert, you know everything so every other view must be invalid.
WHAT!? The industrial revolution occurred in the early 19th century before the colonial powers gained most of their African colonies. And you were being rude by calling me ignorant. If you persist with this attitude then we I'll terminate this discussion on my end. I've been civil with, you the very least you can do is reciprocate.
the slave so-called trade began in 1590 maybe even before. thats 300 years before the revolution. that gives europeans 300 years of FREE labour to help create the 'revolution'
What an odd statement? The slave trade began in 1590? There has been Slave trading for thousands of years. What is this 'so called' business clearly it was a trade. You claimed that the Congo supplied all the industrial revolution's rubber which is obviously nonsense since the industrial revolution was from 1760 to 1820 and there were no commercial rubber plantations outside Brazil until the twentieth century. You claim you are not a Christian but talk about God? You clearly aren't Jewish.
Yes slavery was a practice that existed before 1590. I'm sorry but the industrial revolution was not created by slavery but by advances in manufacturing technology.
Well lets just disagree hey? What a great idea! Lets be adults and disagree, you have your opinion and ihave mine which is that the free labour of so-called afrikans that the europeans utilized from 1590 for 400 years was the sole reason europeans were even capable of developing any such technological advances and revolutionary industries.
it appears we are failing to communicate even the simplest of ideas as it is! Now you want to get onto the real complex stuff lol. Maybe in a year or two.
I don't have to be, I already am. I'm not going to say the obvious on this but I will ask you do you have any evidence to substantiate this view and where is it?
Lets just disagree, we are both adults. You have your opinion Ihave mine. I have my sources and you have your sources, whatever I state is likely to be met with contrary opinions because that is the nature of this forum, it always leads to juvenile discussions.
