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Resolved: Legal Access to Abortion is Necessary for the Freedom and Equality of Women"

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Bluesguy, Mar 30, 2022.

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    No it was not.
     
    Bluesguy, Apr 1, 2022
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    sure it is, it always is

    one side wants to take away choice

    the other wants the potential mother to have the freedom to choose
     
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    1) Who forced her to have a child she couldn't afford? Who forced her to have unprotected sex while fertile?

    2) Why did she choose such a mate? Such vile specimens are flamingly obvious to any woman with an ounce of self-respect or interest in her own long term stability and safety. And even if .. in the unlikely even that he initially presented as a stable, decent, responsible, hard working and honourable man, without jealousy, control issues, or other similar deep personal flaws .. why didn't she leave at the very first indicator of trouble ahead?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Keep in mind you are talking to Progressives.
     
    kazenatsu, Apr 1, 2022
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  5. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    Indeed. The misogynistic claim that women can't be expected to make sound choices for themselves, will always be made.
     
    crank, Apr 1, 2022
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    Such an incel thing to say.
     
    Ritter, Apr 2, 2022
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    Ritter Well-Known Member

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    Abortion is a sound choice she makes for herself.
     
    Ritter, Apr 2, 2022
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    No it was not what the debate was about.
     
    Bluesguy, Apr 2, 2022
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    FreshAir said: ↑
    sure it is, it always is

    one side wants to take away choice

    the other wants the potential mother to have the freedom to choose


    That's what it is ALWAYS about.
     
    FoxHastings, Apr 2, 2022
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    Which is to completely ignore the point made.
     
    crank, Apr 2, 2022
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    She DOES have the freedom to choose. It's you guys who insist she's not able to (for any one of many reasons .. all just plain offensive).
     
    crank, Apr 2, 2022
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    FoxHastings said: ↑
    the other wants the potential mother to have the freedom to choose

    Here ya go again, claiming people said something they never said...the sign you really have no argument :)


    I NEVER said a woman wasn't able to choose between abortion or gestation and YOU can't prove I did.
     
    FoxHastings, Apr 2, 2022
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Not talking about your ambiguous "it" if you can't discuss the debate oh well.
     
    Bluesguy, Apr 2, 2022
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    So you agree that women make their choice, soundly and responsibly just like any grown adult does?
     
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    unless republicans take that choice away in the future
     
    FreshAir, Apr 2, 2022
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    So you agree that women make their choice, soundly and responsibly just like any grown adult does?
     
    crank, Apr 2, 2022
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    right now, they have the freedom to choose, so yes

    except maybe a child that is forced by her parents to have her rapists child

    I believe if one is old enough to have a child, she is old enough to decide not too
     
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    FULL UNCHERRY PICKED COMMENT :

    ""I NEVER said a woman wasn't able to choose between abortion or gestation and YOU can't prove I did.""" (AS YOU CLAIMED )


    YOU for some strange reason had to shorten my comment to ""I NEVER said a woman wasn't able to choose""

    showing clearly that unless you can manipulate other's response YOU HAVE NOTHING...


    Why would women's choices be any different from any other adult? OR BE HELD TO A DIFFERENT STANDARD AS YOU THINK THEY SHOULD BE...
     
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    :) Stumped ya again...oh , well...
     
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    You were given every opportunity to participate in a discussion about the debate which this thread is about, apparently it was you who was stumped..oh well.
     
    Bluesguy, Apr 3, 2022
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    The whole abortion debate, not just the crap in the Op , boils down to :

    """"one side wants to take away choice

    the other wants the potential mother to have the freedom to choose"""


    Gee, gosh, if ya can't address it just say so :)
     
    FoxHastings, Apr 3, 2022
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  22. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    This thread is about the specific abortion debate in the OP.
     
    Bluesguy, Apr 3, 2022
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    The consequence of a mistake or accident .. condom breaking for example - is that if you don't take the morning after pill .. there is a possibility you may get preggo..

    Your claim that this violently ends a human life is nonsense .. "assumed premise fallacy" -- repeating the same mistake you make over, and over and over. One day you need to figure out what an argument is mate ..
     
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    another name for miscarriage is spontaneous abortion, a miscarriage is an abortion and most women have many during their lifetimes, even if they do not know it
     
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    Usually at a very very young gestational age. Did you know that by 7 weeks there's only an 8% chance of miscarriage, and by 9 weeks it's 3.5%?
    We don't know for sure, but probably most of those fetuses had abnormalities which were incompatible with life.
    And that's not all. If a woman gets an abortion earlier in her life and waits until she is older to have a baby, her chance of miscarriage will increase!

    Sudden Infant Death Syndrome is also a thing, but we don't say it's okay to go around killing newborn babies.

    How high do you think the chance of random death has to be to start making it more okay to kill that person?
     
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