Restaurant Workers Lose Their Jobs Over Newsom’s $20 Minimum Wage

Young entry level workers with no HS degree and very little (if any) work experience. Who is going to hire them for a starting wage of $20 per hour.

 

Thats the point, we need t increase the minimum wage. There is absolutly no reason to allow an employer to use the taxpayers to subsidize their business. Employers should be treated just like those on the right who claim an employee should. If you’re an employee and you cant make enough money, find a different job……if your an employer and you dont make enough money to pay your employees a living, you should find a different business.

Why should the taxpayer subsidize either side of that equation

 

They shouldn't. Why can't the worker get a job that pays appropriately to their skill level?

 

What's the date on that information?

 

Everytime the minimum wage is increased people lose their jobs and businesses go out of business. That's what you want??

How are taxpayers subsidizing anything except through a welfare system which basically pays people for not working.

 

Because he meat and bun and everything else is free to the restaurant?

I posted the numbers on the price increases why are you pretending otherwise?

 

Why can't we pay a living wage ?

Why are you OK with you subsidizing companies who refuse to pay their people.

 

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Why are you being Obtuse.....

YOUR tax dollars subsidize every company that doesn't pay a living wage. Your not subsidizing the individual, your subsidizing the company that they work 40 hrs a week for and dont make enough money to live.

Who's fault is it that the government has to subsidize those wages, the individual or the company (and remember, SOMEBODY has to to that job or the job wouldn't exist)

All due respect to the debate, but I keep hearing that "if the person doesn't have the skills they need to get the skills to make more money", but you always leave out that SOMEONE has to do that job. So if the company cant afford to pay the living wage, they should go out of business right ?

Shouldn't we hold the business to the same standard we hold the individual to ?

 

Show me the link.

 

So your OK with YOU subsidizing the restaurant now ?

Somebody gets the subsidy because SOMEONE has to do that job. So the subsidy is going to happen, and it isnt going to the employee, is subsidizing the employer....

 

I literally did the math for you....

read what I post and stop embarrassing yourself....

 

The cost includes the bun....thats the REATIL COST to the customer....

 

Where did you learn your economics from?

How does anyone's tax dollars subsidize every company?? BTW nobody can live on the minimum wage.

I would rather my tax dollars are used to provide assistance to someone who is working and who qualifies for assistance than paying someone not to work because of minimum wage laws which harm the very people that those who advocate for minimum wage laws claim to help. They don't help those who lose their jobs or those with limited human capital who desperately need to increase their human capital by increasing their work experience.

Someone does not have to do the job. Businesses will be forced to close their doors because they cannot make a profit. More people will lose their jobs.

Artificially increasing wages (aka price fixing) results in jobs being replaced by automation. Look at what's happening in the fast food business. Labor is a cost of production. If the cost of labor is increased via minimum wage laws businesses will shut down or businesses will replace human labor with machines.

Why not increase the minimum wage to $40 per hour? Why not $60 per hour? If a company cannot afford to pay that wage they should go out of business right ???

What does this even mean?

 

There is no subsidy. Where do you get this idea from? Marxism - the labor theory of value? Where did you learn economics?

 

According to a 2021 White House study, the wealthiest 400 billionaire families in the U.S. paid an average federal individual tax rate of just 8.2 percent. For comparison, the average American taxpayer in the same year paid 13 percent. To me, it seems unfair and counterproductive to give special tax considerations, which is a form of welfare, to the rich. Despite the widespread reduction in taxes on the wealthiest individuals over the past half-century, there is little clear evidence linking these cuts to improved economic performance, not to mention a major driver in increasing the federal debt.

 

Every company that pays an employee minimum wage gets a government subsidy paid directly to the employee. If a person works a full time job, THEY apply for and get the subsidy, but that subsidy is direclty related to the fact that their employer isnt paying them. Hence, the employer is getting a subsidy for their business by NOT paying the employee enough to live on.

I wasn't talking about those who dont work, Im talking about those who do.The government assistance they get is helping the employer pay less to the employee.

YES, someone has to do the job, so why should the government subsidize the employer. In the same way as "if the employee has low skills they should get better skills", shouldn't we say the same for the employer "if you cant pay the employee a living wage, then you shouldn't be in business" ? Why dont we hold both sides of the equation to an equal standard ? Tipped wage is just another cutout for business to pass on their costs to the customer.

Thats going to happen no matter what. I agree, but increasing wages isn't the driver of that, profits drive that 100%. Personally I think were are at a precipice in this country where automation and lower wages are driving more and more money straight to the top.

Thats not what Im saying. But for every person that works 40 hours a week, and they receive some form of government assistance just to live, that subsidy isnt to the person, its to the company for not paying a living wage. If the user is held to the account of "you need better skills", why cant we say the same to the business owner, "if you cant pay your people, then you business model is crap"..

 

Post the restaurants invoice for all the ingredients and production cost. Why re you denying the lbor cost increases as have been posted?

 

Utter nonsense. A welfare check does not go to the employer it goes to the person. If you pay someome more they their labor is worth to the company then YOUR business model is crap and unsustainable.

 

You made up some numbers which have no relevance and ommitted all the cost.

Tell me what is the net profit margin of the average McD's?

 

Liberal’s best laid plans generally accomplish the opposite of their intentions.

 

Don’t subsidize the restaurants. Stop using them to advance a social agenda. Abolish this idiocy which requires them to pay an hourly wage they can’t pay.

 

Where's the link I asked for?

 

The “cost” is the menu price FFS. Their costs are even lower

 

JFC you could not be more obtuse…

OF COURSE THE CHECK GOES TO THE EMPLOYEE!!!!!! It covers the difference between what the employer doesnt pay, and the cost of living. THAT GAP is what I’m claiming.

My god man!