Richard Dawkins Ph. D.: "Aliens Seeded Earth?"

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    True....... but what Richard Dawkins Ph. D. states in that video could turn out to be extremely useful over the coming decades. Dr. Steven Greer has theorized that one of the major reasons why the truth about alien life forms being involved in human history is suppressed is because if this was common knowledge.......... we would know that the internal combustion engine was obsolete and we would search with more enthusiasm for more and more green forms of energy!


    http://www.theorionproject.org/en/research.html

     
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    Yes .... he is ......… but there truly is a chance that the future of the earth will be transformed more by some of these discussion threads than by a published book?!

    It could happen!

    There are some pretty heavy implications to his video that seems to have been shot from a number of different angles:



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpWl4NyZzcA

    UFO - Temple mount - Dome of the rock - Jerusalem - PSY-OP EXPLAINED! Part 1 of 2

    (For the record I am not in agreement with the analysis that happens after seven minutes in the film..... but ..... it is an interesting theory and better than an obviously biased attempt to just write off these videos)!
    ..............................

    Personally..... I am impressed by what President Obama's half brother has done.... and I believe he is sincere.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...obama-one-worlds-most-courageous-muslims.html


    Is Malik Obama one of the worlds' most courageous Muslims?



    In my opinion.....YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!






    endtimeheadlines.org/temple-mount/obamas-brother-in-support-of-third-temple-built-in-jerusalem/
     
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    Nothing is being suppressed, it is simply unconfirmed and therefore useless to scientific study. The "evidence" of extra terrestrial activity in our past is only found in hypothesis and "Ancient Aliens" re runs on TV. As there is nothing tangible to study the concept cannot move beyond the hypothetical.
     
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    Those videos of a UFO over the Jerusalem Temple Mount that were shot from several directions would be extremely difficult to fake considering how many languages the people in the background spoke in.

    The guy who does part two of the video given in the previous post is correct that religious people all over the world will read significance into those videos.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbvhvPzquQ0
    UFO - Temple mount - Dome of the rock - Jerusalem - PSY-OP EXPLAINED! Part 2 of 2

    (Personally I tend to disagree with the commentator rather vehemently and suspect that that UFO event probably fits much better with the statement in the Book of Daniel about a decree of the Watchers)!

    (Daniel 4:17)

    ...........

    So am I correct Tecoyah that the following statement is to you probably one of the dumbest paragraphs that you read today or maybe even this week?


    http://www.near-death.com/storm.html#a04

     
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    The temple mount videos are indeed compelling, as I agree they would be difficult to "Create"....though not impossible. If they are genuine however, they do not represent proof of ancient alien visitation and manipulation. As for the opinions presented by Howard Storm...they are personal experience and not pertinent to any discussion of physical reality any more than my abduction by Miniature Aliens that looked like Smurfs back in 1972.
     
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    Well....... that certainly does sound logical..... but the transformation in the life of the famous actor Larry Hagman that occurred after his experiment with certain drugs...........did affect his own life as well as everybody who was in continual contact with him.

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/triggers04.html
    The Trigger of Hallucinogenic Drugs: Larry Hagman's Near-Death Experiences

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    Could ketamine or DMT perhaps be useful to break a psychiatric patient out of a pattern of suicidal behavior?

    I am almost certain that it was Melvin Morse M. D. who referred to one study in which a group of patients who had attempted suicide were simply given NDE accounts to read. Zero people from that group attempted suicide again during the duration of the study.

    I think that we have lots of unanswered questions as to why the LSD tests produced such amazingly high IQ scores?

    Mellen Benedict has a brush with death....and came back with information that he could patent!?!?

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/research08.html#a16



    Tecoyah..... back in 1990 I went through a theological/ philosophical crisis.........got angry with Rabbi Yeshua/ Jesus for seeming to settle for a "many called/few chosen" plus a higher dimensional prison environment scenario.............. so I quoted Isaiah 45:1........literally stuck my right hand up in the air.... and asked Yeshua/ Jesus to take me by the right hand like he had done with the Gentile King Cyrus.......and from that time my life has been transformed in so many positive ways.

    If you are ever bored... posts #1 and #4 summarize the whole thing.....
    http://tate4centralnova.yuku.com/topic/383/My-correspondence-with-Rabbi


    Could scientists who are working on crucial research greatly increase their success levels by simply asking for help from a higher dimension?????
     
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    It is possible...as are a great many things, but possibility does not equate to probability.

    "Nothing is impossible...it simply has not happened yet".~unknown
     
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    On the contrary:
    "possibilitynoun1. feasibility, likelihood, plausibility, potentiality, practicability, workableness a debate about the possibility of political reform

    2. likelihood, chance, risk, odds, prospect, liability, hazard, probability There is still a possibility of unrest in the country."
    www.thefreedictionary.com/possibility scroll to the bottom of the page.
     
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    Aliens gave us the blueprints to the Retro Encabulator. Here is the proof.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac7G7xOG2Ag
     
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    Yet, they did not include the primary designation drive instructions....rendering the design little more than a birth control device less effective than silly puddy.
     
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    He was asked about "who could've created the heavens and the earth?"...and how started? Dawkins defaults to a non-who of "what was started" as permitted by science. Referring to the first self replicating molecule that could've happen on earth. He is met with "how did that happen?", and responded with "I told you we don't know".

    The answer to Dawkins' inference is "YOU don't know how that started...NOR does ANYONE else". This is the philosophy of doubt and correct, to the extreme, that undermines anyone else's philosophy even one's own.

    Then Dawkins was asked about "intelligent design". In which he inferred an alien civilization. Where else is there intelligence? It's a perfectly rational intelligence? Where is intelligence, anyone? :blankstare:

    This video clip is from that stupid documentary Expelled. The whole premise of the "documentary" is an argument from ignorance. With no data.
     
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    Here are some quotations on the basic ideas behind Grand Unified Theory and String Theory:


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Complexity/Consciousness

    My impression at this time is that it would be nearly impossible for more and more fundamental forms of energy....to NOT become conscious........especially when infinite time previous to the most recent Big Bang event is added to the formula!
     
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    Here is some information on a rather different type of experiment........ but that is also related to the question of alien life forms and/or life existing in higher invisible dimensions.

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/research08.html#a06

    Is Richard Dawkins Ph. D. taking a look at research like this?

    I believe so and I think that this is having an effect on how he views the universe and our place in it.
     
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    It impressed me as one of the best interviews that he has ever done.

    I have to admit that some of the quotations form him are insightful.

    http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/r/richard_dawkins.html
     
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    But..... if the fallen angels can be redeemed and brought back to love - light - truth...Â… then certainly Richard Dawkins Ph. D. can be brought back as well....... maybe some of his family or friends will read the following book..... and get him into this possible angle on the whole subject.......


    Even Richard Dawkins Ph. D. would enjoy this book! "The Thrice Born" is going to help many agnostics and atheists to begin to take Jewish and Christian scriptures somewhat more seriously. I saw an interview online in which Richard Dawkins Ph. D. refused to rule out the possibility of an alien civilization evolving to a high level of technology thousands or even millions of years in our past. The possibility of alien civilizations playing a role in human evolution or history or even perhaps seeding the earth with life is not something that a truly educated person would casually rule out. This book fits extremely well with "The Book of Enoch" and I will definitely be recommending it to some of my Christian friends who would be interested in considering another view of this intriguing verse from Genesis: "That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose." (Genesis 6:2)

    http://www.amazon.ca/Thrice-Born-Pray-Angels-Book-ebook/dp/B00Q8M18QE

    "The Thrice Born, Pray for the Angels"

    ...Â… Due to the storm I got a chance to read this book day before yesterday and I can see myself even recommending this to my daughter in a few months or years?!

    The authors do a good job of explaining through fiction how science and evolution could well fit with the Jewish and Christian scriptures.... as well as with UFO phenomena?!
     
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    I believe that the modern definition of "Atheist" is being somewhat expanded.

    Several years ago somebody on one of the Atheist debate forums stated that I personally could be defined as a atheist..... if I wanted to be...Â… because of my theory that perhaps Super Strings and Super Waves...Â… over eternity in the past evolved and became intelligent and assisted in organizing Big Bang type events and in the creation / evolution of intelligent life forms.

    What do you think of post #458 on this topic:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...vernment-talks-about-release-e-t-data-46.html

    Russia's Government talks about Release of E.T. data.

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    maybe we are the aliens
     
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    Who gives a (*)(*)(*)(*) what he believes. Here's something I believe:

    "I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own--a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human fraility. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism. It is enough for me to contemplate the mystery of conscious life perpetuating itself through all eternity, to reflect upon the marvelous structure of the universe which we can dimly perceive."

    ~Dr. Albert Einstein~
     
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    Fascinating theory!

    Personally....... I am convinced that our ancestors were created in order to set in motion a series of events that would lead to the "restoration of all things" that includes the return to light- truth - love - gratefulness....... even by highly advanced alien cultures....... as well as of various species of "angels" who fell.......... AboveAlpha mentions the possibility of life forms that are non-carbon based......… that idea could include angels.

    The Book of Enoch certainly gives hints at the restoration of fallen aliens as well as fallen Watchers.... who seem to be a form of angel?!
     
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    Perhaps..... this very statement may be one of the reasons why Dr. Albert Einstein wanted to meet with near death experiencer Christian Andreason?????

    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/

    Chapter 3.....

     
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    Self serving bull(*)(*)(*)(*) told by someone when there's no way to confirm it or dispute it.

    This text appeared in Einstein's obituary:

    http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/bday/0314.html

    "I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own--a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human fraility. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism. It is enough for me to contemplate the mystery of conscious life perpetuating itself through all eternity, to reflect upon the marvelous structure of the universe which we can dimly perceive, and to try humbly to comprehend even an infinitesimal part of the intelligence manifested in nature."

    Like my hero I've written my own obituary and this will be included:

    "All my life some of the most trying and tedious moments which I experienced were while attending wakes or funeral services for family, friends or associates. For that reason and because I don't believe in ghosts, holy or otherwise, I request that there be no type of ceremony or memorial on my behalf. If my family wishes to gather in some way to honor my memory I appreciate that. I hope that my family and friends will try to remember the good I did and forget or forgive me for everything else."
     
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    If you took the time to read Christian Andreason's NDE account you would run into an astonishing number of statements that would be offensive to any group of people that he might have in mind if he was simply marketing his book.

    For example..... his recognition of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus as Messiah will tend to offend many leaders in the New Age Movement!

    http://www.near-death.com/andreason.html#a08



    But his recognition of the value of reincarnation as well as astrology in chapter five of his book...… will turn off 95% of Christians...… so why would somebody who is so obviously intelligent do such a bad job of marketing to an audience.........… if mere marketing was their goal??????????


    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/

     
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    Christian self serving bull(*)(*)(*)(*)! Confirm any of that by an independent source. Mine includes Einstein's obituary posted in the NY Times for the whole world to see. Hearsay evidence isn't allowed in a court of law!!
     
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    Who is expanding that definition and why?

    If it is Christians that are doing it, then I have a huge distrust of that. Most religious people have a lot of prejudice against atheists and therefore can't be objective and unbiased in any way.

    But I will also have a skeptical pov if it is atheists doing it to.

    As far as the Russian angle on releasing their UFO stuff, I remain skeptical. Because I suspect that it may be some sort of hoax aimed at creating some amount of discord in America.

    But, I will check the information out to see what it has to say.
     
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    The impression that I got was that some Atheists are arguing that belief in aliens evolving before we humans did and even playing a role in our evolution or even in our history…………. could still be considered a part of Atheism!

    I guess the Erik Von Daniken research has forced many people to ask themselves some intriguing questions.
     

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