RIP Diana Gould

...7th in what? Talking a good game? Running to the front shouting we are the boss of everything here, when we're obviously not?

What is being 7th good for? Economic growth (fail). So we have to enter war after war? To attract hate and terrorism?

We don't like these things. We don't like being the centre of attention either.

Fortunately people usually regard Scotland as long suffering and we're only recently being targeted for hate probably because Scottish politicians have headed UK politics for 15 yrs and our political set up is more beneficial to Scotland than England. We're losing the sympathy vote. But escaping the UK Union should resolve that.

England likes to think it rules the waves. Scotland tries to be self-effacing. It makes us cringe, all that egotistic crap. If you want that embarrassing old boot as your figurehead or effigy, carry on and tell yourself what you like about her motivations and activities. But she avidly remembered and is purely despised in Scotland and as far as I hear it in Ireland also and trying to destroy the credibility of Scottish posters cannot change the hard evidence on that.

 

Have you not noticed most Scots are socialist? She did. Did she dump nuclear waste everywhere? Or nuclear weapons?

No, I can't say it ever occurred to me, but it did occur to me that Callaghan was not in control and needed a break.

 

You have got to be kidding. The evil name of Thatcher recalls only empty promises followed by financial disaster, advising people to take on mortgages and the economy crashing and leaving them high and dry, yuppies going bankrupt etc etc etc. I'm not old enough to remember all the details but I wasn't born yesterday.

People voted for Blair because of his approach to business. He had a much better handle on it than the inept Tories of the day. I believe most people saw that and his approach to business is what made people return to vote Labour and it was consciously done on his part to change public perception from concern over possible obstruction of business, to demonstrating his Party's ability to deal with and facilitate business.

It bloody is the preserve of the Tories. The majority of people who voted, voted for devolution. That old Ratbag then said not enough people had voted. She treated that referendum as she treated the Unions and everyone else...with absolutely no honour or decency. She was a sneaky old bastard, devious and deceitful and all of the jokes about the worthlessness and lack of ethics in the legal profession are vested in her person. Her actions are what changed the culture and made it acceptable to lie, cheat and force unethical change against the will of the people, not transparently but purely through deceipt and slight of hand. The Tories are still using the same tactics. Making negotiations deliberately so complex it's impossible for the Unions to even understand them, in order for the Tory scum to sneak things past.

I don't give a flying f about the British people, Scottish people don't vote for her Party even now and I hope we never will again.

The politicians have given up caring now, because the Scottish vote is obviously beyond their reach. But it was a key target for them in the past, as it could make the difference between election and failure and in the last instance, did it not make the difference between clear election and coalition? Not negligible then, as you attempt to assert.

It's like banging my head against a brick wall, is it even worth explaining again that comment about wrangling with Westminster related only to gun law?

Although of course we still have to wrangle with them on other reserved matters.

Nobody cares about Westminster. That will soon be part of ancient history. A good laugh at the time, but the joke is over.

Mairead responded to this. Regarding the last sentence, it's difficult as always to ascertain your meaning but people are not really entitled to hold racist views any more. Ask the opinionated lady on the London tube, who was taken to Court a couple of weeks ago for expressing her views on this...

 

I can't ever see that being a problem unless you all suddenly learn to speak English .
But , regardless , I was just wondering if you have heard about the fine results that Anger Management courses can produce .

Decent English people think of Ireland and Scotland as interesting foreign destinations for touring the countryside . But they hardly want to get involved with the natives , other than patting them on the head with a token free drink.
I guess the best thing we have seen happening in both countries recently is the emergence , at long last , of passable Cricket players .
This civilising influence will work wonders in time .

 

Ah, while I am not at all wounded being long accustomed to embarrassing misplaced English arrogance while we all know who really runs the country and where the brains are, on topic here is a quote ascribed to your half mad old bag lady Thatcher for ye (ye is Scottish for you, btw, linguism along with tact apparently not being among your list of accomplishments):

Ray, despite another country's best efforts to eradicate the local lingo, we just carried on regardless and developed a new language variety, the Broad Scots which is now apparently a listed EU language and we are bilingual "so get it right up ye"...that is Broad Scots but sure even you can appreciate the meaning.

... btw, did you hear the one about the confused country which retained Latin and French (languages belonging to two cultures which had both conquered that country) as the languages of education and officialdom, with "English" considered to be a scruffy low class dialect unsuitable and ill equipped for anything important until....some Scottish folk decided "English" was handy as a lingua franca, ignored those silly English and started publishing education material in "English"? A university told me all about that...Tally ho old boy.

 

I couldn’t fail to notice the hold socialism has over Scotland. And during the 1980s more than a 100 sites were identified all over the UK by the govt body, the Institute of Geological Sciences. Her predecessors hadn’t given much thought to what would become of nuclear waste.

That’s as bad as saying a politician is resigning to “spend more time with his family” but Callaghan himself said the SNP’s decision was like “turkeys voting for Christmas”. He and the unions between them brought the country to its knees.

Thatcher was extremely naive and didn’t think her policies through properly, that much is true, but evil? No, I don’t think she was any more evil than socialists who want to use great wads of everyone else’s money to further their own political aims.

You don't give a "flying (*)(*)(*)(*)" about the British people but you think you know why they vote as they do? People vote for one party or another for all sorts of reasons, but it didn’t help the Tories that they’d made such a mess of the economy after their disastrous foray into the euro’s forerunner, the Exchange Rate Mechanism. Business did not forget Black Wednesday. Labour on the other hand had ditched its most socialist policy in revoking Clause 4 and were probably therefore considered less dangerous, and like the Tories, they had promised a referendum on the UK’s entry into the euro under pressure from James Goldsmith.

No, it bloody well isn’t the preserve of the Tories. Did the postal voting scam completely pass you by? Not enough people did vote. Or would you really change the status quo on a turnout of only 64% with a yes vote of 52% and a no vote of 48%? You probably would! Even now opinion polls suggest the vote would not go the separatists’ way, but there is NOTHING to stop Salmond calling a referendum right now. And all politicians are devious and deceitful, even your sainted Salmond.

Nice to know where you stand. However, until such time as the voters in Scotland vote to separate, you will be governed by the politicians chosen by the majority of the British people want, like it or not.

It can still make the difference between election and failure. Is it any wonder a majority of the British people who care (again if opinion polls are anything to go by) would vote 'yes' to a separation?

Funny, I though it was me who's banging my head against a brick wall, not you! You have to deal with Westminster only because Salmond hasn't held a referendum. Blame his foot dragging.

Maybe. Hold your referendum and let’s see.

If you don’t understand my meaning, ask. People should be entitled to hold racist views, distasteful though those views are. Anything else is an attack on the freedom of speech. We do not have free speech in the UK any more and we can’t just have some free speech or it isn’t free speech at all. Taking the “opinionated lady” to court was a really pathetic overreaction.

 

The Vulcan bombers were already obsolete like everything else in the "borrowers"
army!

For a great many years the corruption in the British armed forces have cost many lives! From the SLR to the SA80..useless! Everything else...missing!
What is it......seven years the accountants and auditors have refused to accept the accounts of the MOD!

Pity some folks paid more attention to the facts rather than hiding there heads in the parochial sand!

Oooh and intelligence MI5 MI6...no idea that Argentine would invade...pebble mill at one did though. But it did allow the degenerate's and her government to wrap the flag about her......and let others give there lives to get her re-elected!

Regards
Highlander

 

Says the biggest racist of them all!
You are perfectly right to be proud of your English identity...as we can be proud of our heritage and culture!
But because of murder genocide and deceit....we found ourselves tied to the 1707 treaty!
Today...the Scots have found dignity to say the status quo....can no longer be tolerated and democratically going through the process of getting rid of those parasites of your aristocracy!
After this time...we can be the best neighbours to your nation...but never again will our sons and daughters be used as fodder.
Look on the bright side....It took Ireland 700 years for freedom of those afore mentioned.....its only taken us 300!
Oooh and the last referendum.....the majority voted to be free!

The Royal Anglican Regiment were flown around Scotland to take care of any that decided to rebel against the English Tory gerrymandering of the vote!

Regards
Highlander