Rittenhouse trial goes to opening statements after jury set

You're just eager to dismiss the drone video since it shows your hero lied crashing your agenda. While the forensic evidence shows that Rittenhouse shot Rosenbaum in the head and back -the shots that actually killed Rosenbaum- when Rosenbaum was lying down. I've not yet heard how shooting an unarmed person that lies down is something out of self defense. This all is rather on par with the usual lot supporting killing a person who lies down, handcuffed, for some allegedly resisting arrest.

 

He ran along side of him and asked questions, to which Rittenhouse replied. So that debunks your claim that Grosskreutz was chasing.

 

Lets clear up your fake claims with Testimony, shall we.

When Grosskreutz first saw Rittenhouse giving first aid, he TESTIFIED he was yelling
"We've got our own medics. You can go home, you f***ing stupid s***" as Rittenhouse wandered about offering medical assistance to others.

After the first shooting, Rittenhouse was running for the police. Grosskreutz chased him down ON VIDEO saying
"Hey, what's going on? Did you shoot somebody? Who's shot? Who's shot?"
Rittenhouse answered, “I’m going to get the police,”
They weren't jogging down the street having some conversation.
Its already TESTIFIED too and RECORDED on video so you can stop that fake claim

At that point Grosskreutz TESTIFIED he turned around in the street and began heading in the opposite direction from the Rittenhouse. But he turned around again, chasing Rittenhouse.
Grosskreutz TESTIFIED he had upholstered his weapon as he chased Rittenhouse and TESTIFIED he would have fired “if I had to.”

Grosskreutz TESTIFIED that he pointed his Glock at Rittenhouse and reached for the AR-15 BEFORE Rittenhouse shot him in the arm.
Grosskreutz TESTIFIED on the stand that he has a criminal conviction for intoxicated use of a firearm.
Grosskreutz TESTIFIED that he was carrying a concealed weapon on the night in question but had an expired concealed carry permit.
Grosskreutz TESTIFIED he knows it illegal in Wisconsin to carry a concealed weapon without a valid permit.

Grosskreutz has a string of arrests and a past felony case that ended up expunged, according to the state Department of Justice.

So you can stop with the fake narrative. The testimony is in the transcript.

 

Maybe that's because the judge knows he's innocent, and used the terms as a clever way to help the kid?

 

The drone video doesn't lie. While the examiner said that Rosebaum 2nd shot was was the one in the hands at close range. That means that Rittenhouse shot Rosenbaum before that ever lunging forward ever could have happened. And since you mentioned the examiner, the 2 deadly shots were shot nr 3 and 4... when Rosenbaum was lying down. You go tell me how Rittenhouse was acting out of self defense and had no other option facing a person who was unarmed lying down... and just had to shoot him in the back and in the head. This is Chauvin all over again where you lot support that a guy posing no thread lying on the floor, handcuffed, still had to get killed.

 

I am saying that Rittenhouse lied about the lunging, and that he shot Rosenbaum first before his hand was anywhere near that barrel. He made that shot in a split second that he heard somebody else shooting. It seems totally plausible that you would want to protect yourself by being shot again by having your hands in front of you. That's when Rittenhouse shot again. And the 3rd and 4th was when Rittenhouse shot Rosenbaum when he was laid down. Those last 2 were the deadly ones. As posted in the other post... it simply is just unbelievable that you would claim to shoot a person laying down in the head and in the back by claiming the unarmed person is a thread to you. We all know that you can't sell that nonsense.

 

Another fake claim by you.
Rosenbaum ATTACKED Rittenhouse and had burn marks on his hand where he tried to grab the weapon. He wasn't shot while he was lying down. He was shot 4 times in .07 seconds as he grabbed for the rifle.
What else ya got

 

The fact that you don't think Rosenbaum closing over 25 yards chasing Rittenhouse and cornering him between the cars was lunging at him, proves you are only in it for a bias review. There is no way he couldn't be shot in the hand if he wasn't grabbing for the gun. If he had his hands in a defensive posture he wouldn't have burn marks and powder marks like he did,

 

So What?

I NEVER Said that he wasn't...

Obviously, since his concealed weapon permit had expired, he was in technical violation of the law.
And thus, because of the expired permit, he was carrying illegally based on violating Wisc. Statute 941.23
^I never denied that fact. Nor, have I disputed it.

I simply pointed out, that GG was NOT a Convicted Felon.

And, seeing the same Egregious Misinformation (posted time and time again, after people should know better) is worthy of being called out.

 

GG admitted on the stand that he was at least 30 feet behind Kyle, at a point in the video that occurred after what you are describing. Kyle was running away from GG´s position at that moment in time. Since GG eventually gets within 3 feet of Kyle, the only explanation besides teleportation, is that GG chased him to that point.

I understand that people who consider their political faction above all else will ignore truths, even obvious ones, that are inconvenient for their faction's narrative. But Kyle was indeed a 17 year old kid. It's not a meme. And he was being chased by a group of armed, bloodthirsty men, who had imperfect or zero knowledge of what just occurred.

Yet no evidence or testimony was presented at trial that showed that intent. You are projecting as to what Kyle was thinking.

Who is "we"? It wasn't anyone participating in Kyle's trial.

 

All 4 shots occurred within about 3/4 of a second. If the first shot was justified, and it was, all were.

 

you do know he had a criminal conviction involving a firearm? sounds like he was a mope. Why did he have a handgun? was that different than KR having a rifle?

 

You are preaching about "Fake Narratives", when you have spent WEEKS referring to GG as a "Convicted Felon"?
Give me a break. You can't make this stuff up.

Apparently, after being called out, you are no longer repeating the egregious misinformation that GG was a "Convicted Felon"
Baby steps, but it's a start.

As far as the testimony, etc...

I am not on the jury, and neither are you.
And, to my knowledge, no one actively posting on PF is on the jury.

So, we (at PF) can "debate" this all that we want.
Our opinions mean NOTHING!

All that matters are the Opinions of the Members of the Jury.

 

I already provided this but the fake claims from the left continue

When Grosskreutz first saw Rittenhouse giving first aid, he TESTIFIED he was yelling
"We've got our own medics. You can go home, you f***ing stupid s***" as Rittenhouse wandered about offering medical assistance to others.

After the first shooting, Rittenhouse was running for the police. Grosskreutz chased him down ON VIDEO saying
"Hey, what's going on? Did you shoot somebody? Who's shot? Who's shot?"
Rittenhouse answered, “I’m going to get the police,”
They weren't jogging down the street having some conversation.
Its already TESTIFIED too and RECORDED on video

At that point Grosskreutz TESTIFIED he turned around in the street and began heading in the opposite direction from the Rittenhouse. But he turned around again, chasing Rittenhouse.
Grosskreutz TESTIFIED he had upholstered his weapon as he chased Rittenhouse and TESTIFIED he would have fired “if I had to.”

Grosskreutz TESTIFIED that he pointed his Glock at Rittenhouse and reached for the AR-15 BEFORE Rittenhouse shot him in the arm.
Grosskreutz TESTIFIED on the stand that he has a criminal conviction for intoxicated use of a firearm.
Grosskreutz TESTIFIED that he was carrying a concealed weapon on the night in question but had an expired concealed carry permit.
Grosskreutz TESTIFIED he knows it illegal in Wisconsin to carry a concealed weapon without a valid permit.

Grosskreutz has a string of arrests and a past felony case that ended up expunged, according to the state Department of Justice.

 

But the medical examiner testified to his hand being on the barrel, not near it. Right? I'm not 100% here, I missed that part of the trial.

4 shots in .7 seconds. That's about .18 seconds between shots. What do you mean that his hand wasn't "anywhere near" the gun during the first shot? But .18 seconds later it was on the gun? How much distance can the human arm and hand cover in .18 seconds?

 

The hocus locus out of focus video brought in at the last minute because the prosecution is losing so badly?

 

So you are not familiar with the video evidence eh?

 

Rittenhouse has a probable civil case against the prosecutor for malicious prosecution for the weapons charge.

 

Ypi are just eager to believe any lie the prosecution tells and they have told quite a few.

 

Rittenhouse detractors keep writing the craziest things that are not supported by the known facts. One of them is even a prosecutor.

 

Yeah, we know...
And, everybody got it the FIRST Time...

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...after-jury-set.593808/page-81#post-1073072599

 

1) his answer does
2) his own video shows you are again lying
3) He showed his intent to murder by lowering his gun and NOT murdering him? lol sorry but you have failed again.
4) the video shows he lunged and the prosecution also showed that he lunged, the forensic evidence showed his hand was around the front of the barrel of the gun. you lying about it wont change anything
5) more lies from you
6) are you incapable of telling the truth? I get it that a pedophile has died and that bothers you to the core.. but lying about it wont bring him back

 

woke? ... read a little deeper into my post history to find out how woke I am ...

Biden doesn't have a fan club ... very few "lefties" here like him which is very unlike the Trump worshipers here ...

do you think it can get any worse than Trump and Biden in the future? ... Jimmy Carter finally earned his halo ...

 

I don't think he has access to the age restriced video

The drone video shows Rosenbaum chasing Kyle. It does not show Kyle chasing Rosenbaum.

Rosenbaum is clearly the aggressor.

 

Wrong! His concealed carry license was not expired. Grosskreutz lied when he said that under oath and he should be charged with perjury for that and other lies he told under oath. He should also be charged with filing a false police report because he lied on that too.

His concealed carry license didn't expire until 2023. His CCL was revoked because he had a previous conviction for possession of a firearm while intoxicated and had an open criminal case for prowling. In that case, after receiving a previous warning, he was caught lurking around in the West Allis police station parking lot in the middle of the night taking video of the police officers' personal vehicles again and was arrested and charged with prowling.