RNC Colorado 100% Crooked

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  1. eddie228

    eddie228 New Member

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    How on one hand can the RNC require Trump to get to 1237, when the RNC is just handing the delegates to Cruz?

    Colorado had no Primary or Caucus, so no one in Colorado had a chance to vote in any primary or caucus, yet all news networks, and Ly'in Ted are claiming he won Colorado, even for a crooked RNC system, this is a new low. and should be alarming to any Republican no matter who you support.
     
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    The GOP has to help Cruz because he cannot win relying on voters. If they continue to back him I hope they have a plan to win the general election without voters as well.
     
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    They aren't trying to help Cruz win, they just want to make sure Trump doesn't get enough to win outright.
     
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    You obviously don't know what you're talking about. Long before Donald Chump entered the race, Colorado put the current system into place in order to get around the Establishment dictating who should get the nomination.

    Cruz used the rules to his advantage. Chump wants you to think he's hired the best political consultants and is waging a great campaign with the RNC being "unfair" to him at every turn. The RNC Establishment has no favorite between Cruz and Chump. Cruz simply had a better strategy. But, since you brought up this crap about "lying Ted," let's examine how Chump is misleading his proselytes. Chump has only gotten 37 percent of the votes, but has been awarded 45 percent of the delegates!

    Just today Chump was railing about this being a "democracy." What's this guy doing running as a Republican??? Article 4 Section 4 of the United States Constitution reads like this:

    "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government..."

    Seems to me, Chump needs not only to read the rules governing campaigns, but somebody needs to tell him our form of government is a REPUBLIC NOT A DEMOCRACY.

    Next, we have to listen to that constant whining from Chump because Cruz called out Chump and "New York Values" and named the most liberal purveyors of that group... the ones Chump claims are "great leaders" (Chump's own words to describe the most liberal left wing Dems in America.)

    Erick Erickson was just on the radio and played over a hundred sound bytes of Chump claiming that people were "unfair" toward him. The RNC, the media, judges, etc., etc. were all "unfair" to Chump. He gets more air time and attention than all the other candidates combined!!!!!

    Here's an explanation on how the process works and how Cruz outmaneuvered the Chump:

    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2016...majority-of-Colorado-delegates/8001460226418/

    IF Donald Chump had read the rules in advance OR maybe hired competent political strategists, he would not have been blocked from getting the easy win he believes he's entitled to. The Chump needs to work for what he gets and quit blaming the world when things don't go your way. Donald Trump has only gotten 37 percent of the vote in the Republican Party (which is smaller than the Democrat Party.) Sixty three percent of the Republicans and most of the Ds are getting sick and tired of Dictator Donald Chump and his whining. He needs a block of cheese to go with that w(h)ine.
     
  5. eddie228

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    Come on, the RNC hand picked those establishment anti Trump people, the Canadian Cowboy Ted Cruz won nothing, it was handed to him, you can try to portray Ly'in Ted the wall street shil as winning, but everyone knows how crooked the RNC is and how bad they want to stop Trump at all cost. Party insiders just gave the delegates to Ly'in Ted and I think you know that, no one can be be that stupid.
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They don't care about winning the election, they are in a situation of eating a large crap sandwich or a small crap sandwich, Trump would be the worst case scenario for the rino GOP establishment, a better scenario is to (*)(*)(*)(*) us off, lose the election to Clinton, wait 4 years and hope it all blows over and then can try again at the next election with their establishment still intact.
    This is the first time in my life I have ever seen the two such leading candidates with the voters (Trump and Sanders) to be outright rejected by their own parties in favor of more corrupt politicians that can be controlled by the establishment. This should illustrate to everyone reading how corrupt our govt is and why nothing ever gets done.
     
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    Bottom line, the rules are set so that the American people/voters are ignored by the system and the few with the most power and control manipulate things to their advantage. Both DEM & REP parties are guilty & corrupt.

    The only question is, how long will it take for the American people to wake up and do something about it?
     
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    Colorado Primaries


    Seems a lot of people are peeod because they discover the truth about primaries, They're learning they aren't for or by the people but for the political hacks. Here are some stories just from today's Drudge Report


    Colorado Republicans cancel presidential vote at 2016 caucus @ http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_28700919/


    Colorado CRUZ GOPe BACKFIRE ! ! ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrqLQK7ecNE


    Angry Donald Trump blasts Colorado GOP results as "totally unfair" @ http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_29750206/angry-donald-trump-blasts-colorado-gop-results-totally


    Colorado GOP blundered on 2016 presidential caucus @ http://www.denverpost.com/editorials/ci_29563108/colorado-gop-blundered-2016-presidential-caucus


    Trump erupts as Cruz sweeps Colorado without votes @ http://www.wnd.com/2016/04/trump-erupts-as-cruz-sweeps-colorado-without-votes/#j5P0MZypxbD9EVgo.99Read more at


    Cruz-Supporting Delegates Picked in Virginia District Trump Won @ http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/201...e-backers-virginia-district-trump-won-n553641


    BOOM! Trump Advisor Stephen Miller: “Cruz Doesn’t Win with Voters, Cruz Wins with Party Insiders” (Video) @ http://www.prisonplanet.com/boom-tr...ters-cruz-wins-with-party-insiders-video.html


    And it's even worse on the Dimbocrap side! Bernie wins and Shrillary gets the delegates.


    Primaries are NOT FOR THE PEOPLE!
     
  9. Andrew Jackson

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    Trump announced in June of 2015.

    He should've hired Paul Manafort then. Instead of waiting.

    The Colorado thing would've never happened if Trump was on top of things 8 months ago.

    He is an AMATEUR in a big game. It is catching up with him.
     
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    That is absolute horse manure. If you're calling me stupid, just remember, if you could put all the Trump supporters together and turn their brains into dynamite, you couldn't get enough charge to blow one's nose.

    The rules were put into place a long time ago. Trump could have lobbied to change the rules, but he didn't because he nor his "experts" bothered to read the freaking rules. Again, sixty three percent of the Republicans (VOTING Republicans) don't want him. Even today, Trump is calling our country a democracy. Go back to the party of Obama.

    If you bother to research the way delegates are secured in each state, you will see that Dictator Donald Chump is blowing smoke up your arse. The real reason things don't get done is that the electorate buys into the political B.S. without checking out the facts. The Chump has told you way more lies than Cruz is even capable of. Let's face it: Cruz out Trumped Trump and now The Chump has to cry foul in order to save face.
     
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    The existence of rules created by the establishment to subvert the democratic process, disenfranchise the voters and help the establishment steal the nomination in favor of an establishment-approved candidate will unlikely impress the sh*t out of regular voters expecting their vote to count. There is another rule that you are missing, if the establishment screws democracy, the voters screw the establishment and throw them out of their offices in short order.

    Lol, that must explain Trump's front runner status by a large margin and his winning the overwhelming majority of states, the popular vote and the delegates. 80% don't want Cruz and 95% don't want Kasich then.
     
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    Trump knew the rules going in. Can't cry now and expect sympathy. And those rules would prevail regardless the crop of candidates. So why would you think that a candidate named Trump is so special? Look, I like Trump. But he's not my everything. Grow up and quit whining.
     
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    Manafort is coming into the game right at the same time he did for Reagan. :)
     
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    Disenfranchise an entire state to get your way? Colorado has over 5 million people who probably aren't that happy about the process either. In the event of the Republican party stealing the nomination away from the voters, you can bet the RNC is going to lose most of it's representation in November, not just the presidency.

    But seriously, they don't waste their time caring about party ideals. The same donors donate and own both political parties, and the news media. This is all about passing TPP and cheap child labor from East Asia. It is great for multi-national billionaires, and sucks for US workers. Cruz looks like he is all aboard the TPP train as well! Anyways, better hope that $15 / hour minimum wage gets passed because pretty soon we're all gonna be working for it.
    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog...ebate_about_his_previous_support_for_tpp.html
     
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    Rules allowing the establishement to chose delegates, usually from among the establishement party elites are inherently biased against an anti-establishement candidate.
    Rules allowing the establishment to assign pro-Cruz delegated to the pool of delegates won by Trump are a mockery of the democratic process.
    Whether Trump knew the rules in advance or not does not make them fair, unbiased or democratic.
     
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    Let's face it, the Republican nominee is doomed no matter whom he is. You have 20-30% of Republicans, the anti-Trump Republicans stating in poll after poll they will not vote for or support Trump if he is their nominee. Then you have 30% of Republicans who say they will not support for vote for the GOP nominee if he is not Trump.

    This almost makes me believe the GOP nomination is meaningless. One can't win in November with only 70% of your base vote showing up at the polls. It seems to me the bottom line is Trump has made way too many enemies within the Republican Party to be able to unite it by November and no one else if the nominee is not Trump can get the loyal Trump supporters behind him to unite the party either.

    This has been the most interesting nomination process I have ever seen.
     
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    I'm no fan of democracy, so cry me a river. Your math doesn't work. Since the field narrowed, in virtually every state since Rubio dropped out, Cruz has made up ground. Cruz is getting bigger percentages in his wins, so again, your math don't work. Trump was only the front runner when you had half a dozen "conservatives" in the mix.
     
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    you need to grow up and realize, it's about more then Donald Tump at this point. my main concern is about the rigged crooked RNC system, forget about the pledged and un pledged crap, it's another thing when you hold no primary or caucus at all.and claim someone won. it's insulting really.

    I have no dilutions of Trump getting the nomination even if he reaches 1237 because that's a temporary RNC rule as well. personally, I hope he runs as a independent.
     
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    And Trump didn't know HOW the system was "rigged," why again????? And no sir, the Establishment didn't have squat to do with what the people of Colorado did. Quit embarrassing yourself and research this.

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    Again, this is utter hogwash. It's ALWAYS been a rule in both parties that the nominee must have at least 50 percent plus one vote in order to get the nomination. We weren't founded as a democracy.
     
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    I am not crying you a river, just explaining to you that the American people ARE in fact huge fans of democracy and that these undemocratic republican shenanigans won't fly with them, whether these shenanigans are codified in some sort of rules or not.. And if Cruz is so hot it's fine with everybody, let him win fair and square, let him get the plurality of delegates and he will earn his nomination.

    But in the real world after the field narrowed, Trump won Arizona, Cruz won Utah and Wisconsin and stole Colorado and North Dakota :D Trump will sweep the North East and WV, will win Indiana, California, Washington.... Cruz may still pick up Montana.... Maybe
     
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    https://soundcloud.com/ewerickson/delegates-delegates-delegates

    Try that.
     
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    yeh, but your adding your 2 cents, about a County in witch the people do care about democracy. not proud of your own County? why no flag selected. or your not into that either.
     
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    really? with 17 candidates, that's the hogwash.
     
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    Oh the right wing lunatic in chief, the Cruz's natural base :D. Why can't you get it through your head. The existence of obsure rules disenfranchising voters does not justify the existence of these rules in the eyes of disenfranchised voters.
     
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    The issue is not with the delegate process itself (which is kind of stupid). The issue is with the way these delegates are selected, by establishment, from establishment and for establishment, with blatant disregard for the will of the voters in the state.
     

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